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  • #31
    The JX10 came after the JX8P. The JX10 is not innovative.
    You definition does not comply with the common meaning.

    to innovate

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      • #32
        I don't know who from Yamaha has been posting here these days or if its motifator.com you're speaking about, but when Mike Martin was handling their synths, we always got straight answers, he never over inflated their products from what I can remember, and he was always a gentleman. Too bad he's in another job slot with Yamaha now. Our loss.

        Mike T.


        I'm sorry to hear that. He was a great rep.
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        • #33


          You are without a doubt going on my ignore list.

          I'm not gonna answer you again as I really dislike your provocative "lets all have an argument as long as I WIN!!!" kind of style...

          You are obviously a deeply unhappy person, why not try and be positive?


          Did they change the concept of sample-based synthesis?

          You definition does not comply with the common meaning.

          etc.. etc.. for eternity...

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          • #34


            I don't know who from Yamaha has been posting here these days or if its motifator.com you're speaking about, but when Mike Martin was handling their synths, we always got straight answers, he never over inflated their products from what I can remember, and he was always a gentleman. Too bad he's in another job slot with Yamaha now. Our loss.

            Mike T.


            Mike Martin is a great guy. He's actually not working for Yamaha any longer. He had a couple of different gigs there and is now working for TC Electronics. I don't believe this forum has any Yamaha reps posting, but several on the www.motifator.com forums are always answering questions and trying to help people.

            On another note, I am really looking forward to checking out the Motif XS to see how much of an improvement it is over my S90 in terms of the sounds and interface.
            <div class="signaturecontainer"><i><font size="1"><font color="dimgray"><b>Originally posted by p120dUdE</b></font></font></i><br />
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            <i><font size="1"><font color="DimGray"><b>Originally posted by ChasIII</b></font></font></i><br />
            Im so sick of keyboards. All this keyboard stuff people always use. All this keyboard synth talk all the time. I'm done with it. Never again.<br />
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            Im thinking that at some point I will have to stop this and start doing other things. Any thoughts, feelings, or ideas?</div>

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            • #35
              Hey Eric. I didn't know that Mike Martin was no longer with Yamaha. Last I heard, he wanted to work closer to home, so he asked to be assigned to a different product line within Yamaha.

              Brother Eric, not all the Yamaha reps are gentlemen like Mike Martin. Sometimes its just in their "tone" or attitude to people that aren't willing to jump on their next band wagon or be Yamaha lap dogs. Like me.

              I think the XS is a needed improvement over the ES, but I wouldn't dump my ES8 to get an XS. It's only one generation, and I don't "need" some of the things they implemented into the new XS. That said, someone that is 2 generations removed from the latest and greatest Yamaha has to offer may be gasing for the XS. Wonder who that could be?

              Mike T.
              <div class="signaturecontainer">Yamaha Motif ES8, Alesis Ion, Prophet 5 Rev 3.2, 1979 Rhodes Mark 1 Suitcase 73 Piano, Arp Odyssey Mk III, Digitech Vocalist Live Pro, lots of PA gear, Oberheim DMX, Roland R-70 Drum Machine, and more toys.</div>

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              • #36

                I think the XS is a needed improvement over the ES, but I wouldn't dump my ES8 to get an XS. It's only one generation, and I don't "need" some of the things they implemented into the new XS. That said, someone that is 2 generations removed from the latest and greatest Yamaha has to offer may be gasing for the XS. Wonder who that could be?

                Mike T.


                Yup it was the same way for many form the Motif Classic to the ES. I thought it was cool, but there weren't enough of the improvements I was looking for to make the switch. As a classic owner, the XS is a compelling upgrade.
                <div class="signaturecontainer"><b>Live Keys Rig:</b><br />
                Yamaha XS7-Korg M50-61-QSC K12 Monitor (Korg Kronos 73 will replace M50 once programmed)<br />
                <b>Guitar Rig:</b><br />
                Fender Strats-Gibson Les Paul Classic-Ibanez 3220 TW (Quilt), Mesa Mark IV, RM4-RT2/50, Crate V3112, and a bunch of pedals/modules<br />
                <b>Bass Rig:</b><br />
                Mike Lull M5-Ashdown ABM 500 RC-Bergantino Cabs, A handful of pedals.</div>

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                • #37
                  Yup it was the same way for many form the Motif Classic to the ES. I thought it was cool, but there weren't enough of the improvements I was looking for to make the switch. As a classic owner, the XS is a compelling upgrade.


                  as someone who has been watching the motifs but not yet owned one, I really am excited by it. it already sounds leaps better than my fantom.

                  I am probably, however, going to get an ES rack in the short term though. I doubt the XS will be around for a while, and even then..it probably wont have the seq or sampling stuff (which I do not need anyway).

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                  • #38
                    I tried to post this thread today at Motifator.com, however I was unable to for some reason their forum submit is acting up. So many of the references are related to that forum. But I thought posting here might be informative as well to people thinking about buying a a Motif XS6.

                    Okay, so yesterday I went to my local guitar center and tried the XS and ES. They were actually displayed side by side, which made it very easy to make this comparison. I spent 4 hours total with both units (it was my day off , and here is what I found (note all of this is my opinion and it is neither fact or the end all be all, I would love to hear other people
                    <div class="signaturecontainer"><i><font color="Blue">I live a life of fearless self invention</font></i><br />
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                    • #39
                      Hey Hef:

                      I agree that Yamaha has a winner in the XS.

                      Mike T.
                      <div class="signaturecontainer">Yamaha Motif ES8, Alesis Ion, Prophet 5 Rev 3.2, 1979 Rhodes Mark 1 Suitcase 73 Piano, Arp Odyssey Mk III, Digitech Vocalist Live Pro, lots of PA gear, Oberheim DMX, Roland R-70 Drum Machine, and more toys.</div>

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                      • #40
                        I don't have time to goto my local musics store, but it's the XS out in Canada yet?

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                        • #41
                          do you have time to make a phone call ?
                          <div class="signaturecontainer"><i><font color="Blue">I live a life of fearless self invention</font></i><br />
                          <br />
                          <i><font color="RoyalBlue">If you want to see God laugh, don't make any plans </font></i><br />
                          <br />
                          Good is the <i><font color="Sienna">Enemy</font></i> of <i><font color="Indigo">Great</font></i></div>

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                          • #42
                            I really dislike your provocative "lets all have an argument as long as I WIN!!!" kind of style...
                            Whatever. I will not miss your personal attacks anyway.

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                            • #43
                              Dmitryko:

                              Lighten up man. Discussions are better than arguments.

                              Mike T.
                              <div class="signaturecontainer">Yamaha Motif ES8, Alesis Ion, Prophet 5 Rev 3.2, 1979 Rhodes Mark 1 Suitcase 73 Piano, Arp Odyssey Mk III, Digitech Vocalist Live Pro, lots of PA gear, Oberheim DMX, Roland R-70 Drum Machine, and more toys.</div>

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                              • #44
                                hehe.. I can't see the reply and all is great

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                                • #45
                                  The Motif XS is bangin. It crushes it's predecessors. I worked with an ES7 for 4 years and recently sold it to get the XS6. I use use Cubase, so the integration was what was after,but wasn't sure what to expect as far as sounds. They're crisp and thick. I've been in front of it for the last 6 hours. It really is ridiculous! None of the competition can hang with this green machine. Everytime I touch it, something fun-key comes pouring out.
                                  <div class="signaturecontainer">current gear: Minimoog,Jupiter8,Hohner Combo Pianet,Hohner Clavinet C,Wurlitzer 200a,Yamaha YC-45D,Kurzweil k2vx,Oberheim Dx,MPC 3000 LE,Open Labs Miko,Tascam SX-1le Plus,Tascam 388 8 track,Yamaha EX5,Solaris<br />
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