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  • Replacing floppy drives with a USB stick floppydrive emulator!

    Now my Yamaha VL-1 floppy drive has died and there are no replacements

    But then I came across this blog detailing this replacement device on a Korg Karma
    http://synth.me/music-gear/replace-your-synthesizer-keyboard-floppy-drive-usb-drive

    You can find them on Ebay for around $50. The website has more details, and the software to create the virtual floppies on the USB drive. You can store 100 floppies on each.
    http://www.floppytousb.net/

    From what I gather, if the disk can be read on a PC, then it can be emulated, once the correct jumpers are set, and the USB stick properly formatted and so on. I tried the software on the website and it works on Windows 7

  • #2
    have u bought it? to my understanding, usually early 90s yamaha floppy drives are proprietary, like my EL90 electone. let me know if it works for you.

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    • #3
      Not yet

      What gives me hope is that the Yamaha VL-1 disks are just standard MS-DoS format. I can copy onto them from PC no problems.

      The black ones from Ebay will fit in nicely.

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      • #4
        A friend has ordered one for his VL1, will update on how it works

        The other option is to replace the belt on your existing drive. That's what usually dies, it stretches too much

        http://shop.ebay.com.au/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m570.l1313&_nkw=floppy+dr ive+belt&_sacat=See-All-Categories

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        • #5
          Now my Yamaha VL-1 floppy drive has died and there are no replacements

          But then I came across this blog detailing this replacement device on a Korg Karma
          http://synth.me/music-gear/replace-your-synthesizer-keyboard-floppy-drive-usb-drive

          You can find them on Ebay for around $50. The website has more details, and the software to create the virtual floppies on the USB drive. You can store 100 floppies on each.
          http://www.floppytousb.net/

          From what I gather, if the disk can be read on a PC, then it can be emulated, once the correct jumpers are set, and the USB stick properly formatted and so on. I tried the software on the website and it works on Windows 7




          This should work...
          http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/

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          • #6
            Well the floppy emulator didn't work, different type of cable
            Instead of an IDE type cable and separate power supply cable, there is a flat type single ribbon connection

            I tried replacing the floppy drive belt, and while that worked, the drive functions now, it just won't read the disks

            Looking for a replacement drive, which I then hope to dump all my patches and other banks from the net into my PC via Soundiver and sys-ex, so that I never need to use the floppy again
            Or is there a way to convert VL1 .1VC, .1BC, and .ALL files to sysex?

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            • #7
              The biggest problem is back when floppy drives were standard on synths, the formats weren't. Different non standard floppy drives were the norm and the engineers that decided every new generation had to write in a different format...WTF?

              If you can get the schematics for the board, you might be able to make a custom ribbon cable to hook it up.
              lots of gear and not a computer in sight.

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              • #8
                I did a little bit of searching and it seems possible to retrofit an adaptor of sorts, but probably out of my leagues of skills

                http://www.yamahaforums.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=4181

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                • #9
                  I was hoping to use one of these on my W-30s, but alas the drive is incompatible.

                  I'd love to be able to replace the floppy drive with something a bit quicker...
                  Gary.

                  Kit List: Roland W-30 (x2), Roland XP-30, Akai S2000, Alesis Micron

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                  • #10
                    Floppy disks.
                    Oh, the memories
                    www.guslozada.com

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                    • #11
                      I was hoping to use one of these on my W-30s, but alas the drive is incompatible.

                      I'd love to be able to replace the floppy drive with something a bit quicker...


                      It won't be quicker since it's an emulator, but it will be more reliable and you can store all your virtual floppies on 1 card

                      they list an S50 here, and the W30 is similar no?
                      http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/

                      If you have a scsci port, a card reader is the way to go though
                      http://www.scsicardreaders.com/index.asp

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                      • #12
                        I tried replacing the floppy drive belt, and while that worked, the drive functions now, it just won't read the disks

                        You might still be able to get head cleaning kits for the FDD (usually very cheap - in the range of $1-2), try 3-4 passes or more with that. These FDD things do not break that easily - but they are sensitive and head clogging is a common problem. After cleaning try to format a blank disk first, then read it back and only then move on to disks written with another machine (be it PC or synth).

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                        • #13
                          You might still be able to get head cleaning kits for the FDD (usually very cheap - in the range of $1-2), try 3-4 passes or more with that. These FDD things do not break that easily - but they are sensitive and head clogging is a common problem. After cleaning try to format a blank disk first, then read it back and only then move on to disks written with another machine (be it PC or synth).


                          Yeah I found an old disk cleaner thing in my drawer, along with a bottle of isopropnal alcohol, will give it a shot

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                          • #14
                            Just to confirm - it didn't work

                            Oh well. Someone did send me all the VL1 patches he had found on the net in one Sounddiver format library file, so that helps

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                            • ahelet
                              ahelet commented
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                              We had the same problem when we tried to use Chinese USB floppy emulators for our plastic injection molding machines. Demag,Engel,Ferromatik,Wittmann,Battenfeld.
                              We worked hard, and result is our own emulator that works and fits perfect for our machines.

                              Our emulator is more simply, just max 72 floppy can be located in one SD card.
                              Only most common 1,44 floppy emulation.
                              Designed for our machines, but I'm sure it will also work with other devices.
                              All floppy signals are implemented, support CP/M and IBM.
                              Our emulator not having any jumpers at all.

                              SD card floppy emulator

                              http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCirwbNnuo4c2Qep\_qvPvUGw/videos

                              http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC\_vY4bpVz8wEre-gF6mrV5w/videos

                              http://www.floppydrive.eu/

                              Price is not final, if necessary, can do for you price that suits.

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