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  • Well, got tired of waiting for a reply so I just bought 1Tb 7200 rpm seagate firewire external HDD, and hooked it to the back of the 400F.

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    • Hello Anderton and harmony central forums users,

      I know I'm a little late on this but I had a question regarding the 400f and any help would be awesome.

      Here is the deal, I am running:

      Sonar 7.0.2 with a
      Onyx 400f interface.

      When using the external insert plugin I am encountering the following problems:

      It will only let me select stereo ins and outs from my 400F.
      If I put in on a track (a mono one) tell it to go to just the Left of "Stereo 3" as its labeled I will not be able to open up a new insert on another track and have it go to the R of "Stereo 3"


      In short... How do I get the external insert plug in to let me send and return things in mono! All my options are Stereo 1 ,3 ,5 ,7!

      I'm baffled because I feel like this should be a simple thing.

      Well any help would be greatly appreciated as I am planning on starting to do some mixing tomorrow... and i would really like to use my LA 2A... really badly.

      Thanks again.

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      • Well, got tired of waiting for a reply so I just bought 1Tb 7200 rpm seagate firewire external HDD, and hooked it to the back of the 400F.


        I found the answer in
        www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov08/articles/pcnotes_1108.htm
        "How green is your studio" specifically the part about config panel power options. "you need to make sure the Power Scheme is set to 'Home Office/Desk' for Windows XP".

        Indeed, since my CPU was not very busy it was switching to a lower frequency to conserve energy which cause audio dropouts. Heeding this advice solved my problem.

        Case closed.

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        • Hey, thanks to everyone for a very interesting and informative product discussion.

          I decided to go ahead and purchase the 400f based on the positive reviews I read, coupled with the current sale that 'musician's fiend' is offering for $399 on some refurbished models.
          I'm definitely not a pro, just a musician who likes to record in my home studio. My previous interface was the Behringer FCA202 which I used for about 5 years (don't make fun of me!) in conjunction with various mixers. I'm also still using an iBook G4 1.2 Ghz, and just recently upgraded to 1.25 GB of ram. So obviously, for me, this is a huge step up.

          The refurbished 400f looked brand new and had no problems interfacing with my computer right out of the box. The first thing I noticed, was that the Onyx pre amps sounded fantastic. I was using a VLZ3 mixer, and that thing doesn't even come close. I was able to record one track at a time in Ableton Live at 96 kHz without any glitches. I listened to my old recordings using the FCA202 (which is also 96 kHz) and it was like night and day.

          Next I opened up iTunes and tried listening to some music. There was a weird crackling sound in the right channel when I listened to some mp3 files, and also when listening to a rendered aiff file that I created using the 400f. I reset the 400f and it went away. I'm still not sure what caused this. It only happens in iTunes, and only infrequently, but it is still somewhat distressing.

          I still have a lot more testing to do, but overall I am happy with my purchase. I'm starting to think that it was worth $399 for the Onyx pre amps alone.

          Thanks again to everyone who has contributed to this thread and hopefully it will continue. I think that this product is still a viable option for project studios, and would love to hear some more opinions.

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          • Folks,

            A newbie question here. I was wondering if I can use TRS patch cable to connect 400F output to its input for quick recording. For example, sending the output 1-2 back to input 7-8 for direct recording. And of course, I would have to mute input 7-8 in the output 1-2 mix. Has anybody tried this? Is it safe to do so? I just want to make sure I am not doing something stupid before I plug in the cables. I'd appreciate a lot for you guru's opinions!

            Thanks,
            Yan

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            • Why would you want to do this? Only reason I can think is to render a DRM-protected file to a clean file?
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              • The reason is some times I don't have my lappy with me and had to use other people's computer. And it seems that without the softwares like tracktion, there is no way to record the performance to the computer. Is there a free software that can let me record the mix on the fly. I don't necessary need to have much control, just record the damn thing at the output. Any suggestions? Thanks!

                Why would you want to do this? Only reason I can think is to render a DRM-protected file to a clean file?

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                • So you have software x broadcasting on outputs 1-8, say, and you want to take that mix and record it to a 2-track mix?

                  I'm missing sommat I think.
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                  • Yes, I just want to record the outputs, e.g. output 1-2, into a simple stereo mix. I was concerned about the potential D->A->D looping. I'd like to know if there are better ways to do it. Thanks!

                    Here's the proposed singal pathway,

                    inputs 1-6, DAW -> (optional effectors) -> outputs 1-2 --??-> inputs 7-8 -> generic free recording software(e.g. audacity)


                    So you have software x broadcasting on outputs 1-8, say, and you want to take that mix and record it to a 2-track mix?

                    I'm missing sommat I think.

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                    • Has anyone had any luck running the 400f on Vista 64bit? It seems to only want to work in 16bit, which is a problem for all of my 24 bit projects. Which is...all of them.

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                      • This review was great and immensely helpful. Thanks a lot Anderton & HC!

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                        • For what it's worth, just wanted to add my thought after a Mackie user for 6 months or so.

                          The good
                          - Preamps are brilliant! Crisp, clear and the near perfect amount of gain.
                          - Insert points are a brilliant addition; why don't more soundcards have these?
                          - Driver software is intuitive enough. Plenty enough control.
                          - It works in Windows 7 64 bit perfectly.
                          - Great control room layout; main monitor controls, two headphone controllers

                          The bad:
                          - The occasional crackles which seem to appear at random. Mackie still hasn't resolved this. It's annoying if you're on a big take and there's a crackle. It seems to dissappear once the unit has warmed up. I get around it by leaving the Mackie on for about 45 minutes before recording audio.
                          - For gamers, the bitrate selection seems to have a mind of it's own which causes instability whilst playing something. All of a sudden the audio will be mangled, speech may not be heard and it can cause the game to crash. Noticed this in a few titles (Prototype, Fear and Bionic Commando)
                          - Lack of MIDI I/O. I think I would have sacrificed the digital I/O for this.



                          All in all, it's a nice unit. If I was buying again though, I think I would go for a Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 instead as I have recommended these to a few mates and they're cracking little units. The pres aren't as good as the Mackie preamps, but the driver software for the Focusrite and the lack of annoying crackles are a bit of a win! The Mackie is sexier on the rack though!
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                          • got water on my macbook pro so I got another one. The 400f software now doesn't want to start from the start up cd and says it no longer run power pc files. tried downloading all the updates from the website and they don't want to work either as I haven't got anything to open them with. Doing my head in... any advice would be great. Al

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                            • got water on my macbook pro so I got another one. The 400f software now doesn't want to start from the start up cd and says it no longer run power pc files. tried downloading all the updates from the website and they don't want to work either as I haven't got anything to open them with. Doing my head in... any advice would be great. Al


                              Did you see this in the support pages...

                              [COLOR=#990000]Important note for Mac users! Some 400Fs in the field may contain an older version of firmware labeled 1.3.1. To check if your 400F contains this version, launch the 400F console and click on the "settings" tab, then click on the "about" button at the bottom. If your 400F has version 1.04 firmware, you may safely run the 3.2.8 console with your 400F, which will automatically update your unit to the latest 3.2.8 firmware.

                              If your 400F has version 1.3.1 firmware, you must first update your unit to version 1.04 firmware, before you can then take the 2nd step of updating it to the current 3.2.8 materials.

                              To update your unit to version 1.04:


                              • Download the Onyx FlashUpdate1.04: Click Here To Download
                              • Double click on the zip archive to unzip the file
                              • Make sure your 400F is connected to your computer and powered on
                              • Launch the standalone firmware updater application and follow the onscreen instructions.
                              • Reset power on your 400F
                              • Launch the console and go to the about box in the settings tab to confirm your unit is now running 1.04 firmware. You may now safely use your 400F with the 3.2.8 console and firmware.
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                              • Also just in. The new windows 7 driver Mackie has pushed out includes a firmware update. Take it from me - and check the Mackie Onyx forum posts - the new firmware DESTROYS the 400F. The unit cannot be used for more than 20 minutes without the FireWire synchronisation missing, leading to crackles until the audiosystem is restarted (usually by changing the buffer slider).

                                You CANNOT roll back once this is done and Mackie are offering absolutely NO response to this problem! They are not even warning users about the problem. I have had a call ticket open since February and have not had anything but automated responses.

                                It's put me off Mackie for life!
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