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  • For me, I connect the USB cable from the RP250 to the computer. It makes the Da-Donk sound that you've connected it to the computer and it shows up as an audio device. Go into the control panel (switch to classic view) and double-click "Sounds and Audio Devices". If you click on the Audio tab, you may notice that the RP250 is now both the Sound Playback device and the Sound Recording Device. This means all sound that your computer makes, will pipe down into the RP250 from now on. Make sure you're plugged into the headphone jack on the RP250. If I recall correctly, no sound comes out of the desktop speakers. To get the guitar sound to your desktop speakers, run a male-to-male stereo cable from the headphone jack of the RP250, to the blue Sound-In jack on your sound card.


    This is a good, succinct explanation of how to get your RP250 working digitally. Of course, you can set recording and playback independently, with all sounds (RP250 and computer) coming out of the speakers, but that takes a little more finesse. I like to record my guitar music with headphones anyway (and not trust my dinky computer speakers), so just do it this way and be done with it. When you're more comfortable with changing the settings in your hardware setup, you can experiment with sound going into the computer via the RP250 and out via the speakers. Do this by going to Start -> Control Panel -> Sounds and Audio Devices -> Audio.

    One small correction to Namco's excellent instructions above: the sound of a USB device being connected successfully goes Donk-Da. When it's disconnected, it goes Da-Donk. The order of the tones changes depending on whether you're connecting (low high) or disconnecting (high low) a device. This is helpful to know when you're on your hands and knees under the table looking for a problem, and you make a cable change, but can't see the yellow announcement balloons on your screen.

    And for you music-school types who care about such things, the musical interval of the connection tones is a perfect 5th. Though sometimes, especially when dealing with audio problems on the PC, I wonder why they didn't use diabolus in musica -- the tritone!
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    • To clarify the power requirements for the RP250 - the input is 9V AC 1.3 amps, dont plug in std 9 V DC unit or you may make the blue smoke that makes electronic devices work escape :-).

      Seriously only use 9V AC powersupplies with this (and related) units.

      Robert

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      • A couple of questions....hope I'm not repeating
        2. Can you program the foot switches for your favorite settings? ie; Left pedal = preset 8, and right pedal = preset 22.


        No you cant BUT you can place them in adjacent user slots and cycle them with the left/right pedals.

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        • Alrighty! I've had a few days with a RP350. Good deal from GC @179.00 I like it for jam/recording.

          some things it does well. For the price I dont expect too much. It does do well for recording. In my amp, my friends amp, and a few others at the store it was very colored. One of my friends has a Vetta so his bias is a bit strong and dumb to compare. What I did like was through our PA it sounded nice. Powerd PA speaker is the way to go but not practical for our band.

          We tried through amp's loops and it sounds good low. When you bust the vol at band levels its just not cutting it. Direct model or not, it wasn't good when running through any amp input or effects loop. At least my bandmates said NO. They like my lead guitarist sound with analog effects since the amp sound is not changed they said. My mates were cool and we spent an entire rehearsal attempting things to correct losses.

          I'll use this for recording, but a powered speaker is not practical for me.

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          • At least my bandmates said NO. They like my lead guitarist sound with analog effects since the amp sound is not changed they said. I'll use this for recording, but a powered speaker is not practical for me.


            Sounds like you (and your band) put in a fair degree of work, and I respect your judgment. Just pointing out in the above statement that whether the effect is analog OR digital, the amp sound is not changed. It's just a question of how much of the digital modeling effect you want to take you through the signal chain (all the way through amps and cabinets, or limiting it just to stompboxes).

            Just a thought: When you were going back and forth between the loop and the input of the amp, did you remember to engage/disengage the Amp/Mixer switch in the back of the RP accordingly?

            And also, remember that when you use X-Edit 2.0 (the computer-based editor/librarian), you are provided parameters that you CAN'T get from the front panel. So I'd recommend that a serious evening of tone scultping with an RP350 include a laptop (especially for the increased EQ parameters).

            Since you'll be using the RP350 for recording, check out the X-Edit, and let us know what you think.
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            • ...We tried through amp's loops and it sounds good low. When you bust the vol at band levels its just not cutting it. Direct model or not, it wasn't good when running through any amp input or effects loop...


              Of course "sounds good" is very subjective. However, my experience is with any gear, especially with eq and ambience settings, adjustments must be made from bedroom to stage volume. Even when I used to gig with a guitar to wah to amp, I had to make adjustments every gig to ensure I was getting the best sound for the room. In a deader space you might want that verb up a little, in a room lined with ceramic plates (Flying Saucer Addison, TX) you cut the verb, gain, and highs.

              This has to do with the efficiency of the speaker playback at a higher spl and the resonant frequencies of the speaker enclosure and the room in which the speaker is projecting. At low volumes, you will tend to need more highs and lows to get a full sound with good definition and might want a good deal of reverb to add ambience. Turn that up loud and suddenly the speaker is breaking up due to the huge amount of bass being fed and the highs are piercing. Coupled with the way the room (small untreated bedroom/rehearsal space versus wide open club) resonates and reflects sound and you could have a real mess on your hands.

              This is kinda the love/hate situation I have with multifx amp modeling in a gigging situation. Sure you have the flexibility to create 50 cool presets, but having to make minor adjustments based on how your gear sounds in a room you've never played before is a big pain.

              As far as it being "colored", well I think that is exactly the point when the unit is engaged. It should impart it's own character (or rather the character of the modeled unit) as it's trying to cover vastly different sonic territory from effect to effect. I still contend that the bypass is perfectly acceptable.
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              • Thanks. I tried the changing modes and I can get the modeler to sound okay. Its more the amp color. Turn up the amp and it gets worse. Even with cabinet direct. Too much to convince a Marshall and Vetta guy opposite me. Odd comparison but that's their pov.

                I can say my bandmates were cool to try some things. It's a headache to them so I'll stick with what works for now. I see too many posts in many forums that have the "honeymoon" to then be ebayed or sold elsewhere in another post. Its a battle with multieffects and live users from what I see. I brought the Blade to our rehearsal last night and the Love from them and our soundtech was revived.

                I'll keep the RP for recording. Modelers have improved. I'll give it that.

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                • Anyone know how the RP250 or the RP350 sounds just plugged straight into an amp?
                  I've read that the amp modelling in other MF units isnt too good but the effects are fine.
                  I'm thinking of getting either of them so any help would be much appreciated
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                  • Thanks. I tried the changing modes and I can get the modeler to sound okay. Its more the amp color. Turn up the amp and it gets worse. Even with cabinet direct. Too much to convince a Marshall and Vetta guy opposite me. Odd comparison but that's their pov.


                    Here is one thing you can try if you want to use your RP during practice with an amp. Instead of plugging your RP into your amp's input, plug it directly in to the amp's effects loop "return" jack. There will be nothing plugged into your amp's input or effects loop "send" jack. The signal chain is guitar->effects loop "return". Set the switch on the back of the RP to "amp" mode, set the amp model to any amplifier you want and set the cabinet to "direct". When I do this with my amp it sounds great. I don't like the sound when I plug the RP directly into the amp's "input" jack. The downpoint with this method is that you are bypassing your amp's preamp section and only using the power amp. The preamp is resposible for shaping/filtering your sound and for adding overdrive. When you use the setup I've described above, you are using the preamp model in the RP to shape the sound instead of your amp's preamp. The problem with this is that you probably bought your amp because you like the way it colors your sound. This isn't the ideal setup, but it's probably the best way to set up this type of multi-fx pedal with an amp to keep all of the effects sounding their best.

                    DigiTech just announced a new rack processor called the GSP1101 which will alleviate this problem because it has an effects loop built in. If you think it through, with the GSP you can route all of the effects before you're preamp that need to go there and all of the effects between your preamp and power amp that need to go there by routing guitar->GSP input->GSP fx loop send->amp input->amp fx loop send->GSP fx loop return->GSP output->amp fx loop return.
                    I hope that makes sense. It does require a little thought and some extra cables. You would just turn off the amp and cab model in the GSP and everything should sound great! I hope this helps.

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                    • yes, I've seen the GSP! looks cool

                      glad to see them chumming a rack unit again. Not sure how the sound will be if it's based on ADNA2 I may look at the Fractal Audio's AXE FX unit. You gotta hear those clips but the thing is pricey, like $1200

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                      • Anyone know how the RP250 or the RP350 sounds just plugged straight into an amp?
                        I've read that the amp modelling in other MF units isnt too good but the effects are fine.
                        I'm thinking of getting either of them so any help would be much appreciated


                        I just bought this and ran it through my Epiphone Valve Junior straight. No effects loop, so it's not optimum, but I thought it sounded really really good. I don't know how "authentic" the models sound, but I'm really happy with the purchase.
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                        • After much thought and looking up reviews I just came home 5 mins ago from Glasgow with a Digitech GNX3000!!!!
                          I thought since life is too short I decided to put the extra to it. Oh and I got it for a great price!
                          It sounded great in the shop so now am off to get it out of the box and spend some proper time with it! woo hoo!
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                          • I've been using the RP350 for about a month now, and have barely left the presets! (they're that good)

                            Use my 100w heads, and double stacks for "real tone", but use the GP350 for practice into a Vox DA15 and a Line6 Spider II 112. BTW the Vox DA15 (with its 8" speaker) blows away the Spider II IMO, but using both on clean settings with the RP350 makes for some great tones/spaciousness, at tolerable levels, so my neighbors aren't too concerned

                            In this "practice" setup, I am quite surprised at how enjoyable it is to play through, and makes me want to play more

                            Previous reviews of the DA15 seem to discredit it, next to say, the AD15VT, but from my experience, it is an excellent practice amp for very good tone at low volumes (I don't use the "heavier" models, but everything from clean (two modes), blues (3 modes), and crunch1 models are excellent). With the RP350 I simply use the Vox's "manual" mode on clean1.

                            Very happy with the Vox DA15/RP350 combo
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                            • My new bedroom practice rig is
                              Guitar-->RP350-->Crate Powerblock-->Peavey212MC Cab with 2G12K-85 Celestions


                              It meets my needs wonderfully.
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                              • I bought an RP250 two weeks ago. I have used it on two gigs so far and have been very pleased with the sounds directly into the PA (which is why I bought it). I also love using it as a practice tool with headphones.

                                I have not tried hooking it up to the computer yet, and quite frankly, am not sure why I need to do so. Programming is very easy and intuitive. What advantage is there to the computer program?

                                If somebody can explain it so even my 53 year old Luddite mind can comprehend, I might give it a try.
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