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  • #61
    Thanks for the feedback! I'm glad you're finding it to be everything this thread says it is.

    If you have something with an ADAT out, would you mind running through the DACs and see if you experience the same weirdness I did?
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    • #62
      Any update on the ADAT to analog output isue that you were having? That, weirdly enough, is the primary interest in this unit. I need the eight outs from my Yamaha panel, and the eight mic pres into it would be a nice bonus.

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      • #63
        PreSonus is sending out another unit in case there was a hardware problem with the one I have here. It was sent out Fed Ex, but it's been snowing a lot here and I don't know if the Fed Ex truck will make it up the driveway today

        As soon as it arrives, I'll test it out. I really do get the sense that the problem relates to my particular unit, as I'm the only person who's mentioned this to PreSonus. If it was a design flaw, I think they'd 1) be able to reproduce it and 2) others would have complained.
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        • #64
          Thanks. Good review, BTW. Very thorough.

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          • #65
            Good review, BTW. Very thorough.


            Thanks much, that's what Pro Reviews are all about
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            • #66
              PreSonus sent me a replacement DigiMAX FS, so I plugged it in and...yes! The ADAT-to-DAC output function worked perfectly. Sounded just fine, too.

              Then again, this one's box didn't have a big dent in the side

              Okay, I think we're pretty much ready to move on to the conclusions.
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              • #67
                Granted, an 8 mic pre to ADAT converter is not the sexiest piece of gear in the world. But this gets extra points for several reasons.

                First, defective unit aside (and it's interesting that whatever was wrong didn't take out anything else), everything worked equal to or better than advertised. The mic pres are better than what would expect in this price range, and the clocking is rock solid.

                Second, the additional features are very useful. Having insert jacks for the ins is great, including direct outs can be convenient for backup/safety recording situations, and the ADAT-to-DAC output concept is useful. Although I did try to use the DAC outs to expand the aux outs in my DA7, the concept ended up not being very useful because the DA7 has no way to adjust the level going to the ADAT output buses -- not surprising, as these were intended to feed a multitrack recorder, not provide aux sends. This wasn't PreSonus's intended application for the DAC outs anyway, but I was hoping they could be tricked into doing something they weren't meant to do.

                On the other hand, where the DAC outs did shine -- unexpectedly -- was for using external effects in conjunction with computer interfaces having ADAT I/O. No matter how "in the box" your studio is, I'd bet you probably have a couple cool analog effects sitting around you'd like to use. With the DigiMAX FS, it's easy: Route a track to an interface ADAT out, patch the corresponding DAC output into your effect, then patch the effect out into a DigiMAX FS in and feed it to an audio input. Yes, there will be some latency by doing the D/A - D/A shuffle, but this can be adjusted through track sliding during mixdown (and if you have Cubase SX3 or Cubase 4, can be compensated for automatically).

                Also remember that two of the inputs are guitar-friendly high-impedance inputs, so you can even route into guitar stomp boxes that expect to see a high-impedance input. That definitely appeals to me
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                • #68
                  The more I used the DigiMAX FS, the more I felt this was more of a collection of modules that just happened to work together as a cohesive unit. By that, I mean that some people might see it solely as a way to get more mic inputs into a computer interface they otherwise like, but lacks I/O (or that they want to use for live recording). Or, consider an interface like the E-Mu 1616 -- great interface, but it has only two mic/instrument ins. Because it has ADAT I/O, not only can adding a DigiMAX FS give you four instrument inputs and six mic ins (or 10 mic ins, etc.), you can even do surround mixing by pumping signal to the ADAT out, and taking the DAC outs to a surround monitoring system.

                  It's also the only thing in my studio that, thanks to the SMUX option, can get clean mic signals into my Creamware interface at 88.2 or 96kHz. And while I have no real use for the direct outs, for live recording, they would definitely come in handy.

                  So overall, it's very much in keeping with what seems to be the PreSonus product philosophy: An "in the trenches" box designed to solve real-world problems, for which you get more than you expect, given the price.

                  And that concludes the "official" part of the review, as I've tested and evaluated every feature the DigiMAX FS offers. However, the thread is of course still open for any questions or comments you might have, or in case I come up with any other applications I might have missed the first time around.
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                  • #69
                    Thanks! Just what I needed to hear. Now what can I sell to come up with the money?

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                    • #70
                      I was under the impression that you had to use both ADAT outs or ins in order to do the SMUX thing at 88.2 or 96kHz. However, I just found out from Mike Martin at TC that the DigiMAX FS will output channels 1-4 over one of the ADAT outs.
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                      • #71
                        Hi!
                        I'm new. Thanks for the review, glad to see everything is fine with the new digimax.
                        I'd like to ask you something, before I buy my digimax fs.
                        I do live multitrack recording, and I get the signals from the insert of the FOH console. So I must rely on the gain settings on this board... if for some reason, during the show, this gain are changed, my rec levels change too. Beside this, I'd like to connect everything to my pres (the digimax pres must be absolutely better than the FOH's Behringer...).
                        So I'd like to know if the ADAT out and the direct analog out can be used simultaneously, becaus I want to use the ADAT for the recording (with my motu828) and the direct out to feed the mixer analog line in.
                        Plus, I'd like to know if connecting jacks half-way in the inserts break the signal paths, because I may want to use these out as additional/backup analog outs.
                        Thanks a lot!!!

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                        • #72
                          {b]Beside this, I'd like to connect everything to my pres (the digimax pres must be absolutely better than the FOH's Behringer...)

                          That's a pretty safe assumption

                          So I'd like to know if the ADAT out and the direct analog out can be used simultaneously, becaus I want to use the ADAT forthe recording (with my motu828) and the direct out to feed the mixer analog line in.

                          Yes. They're both available at all times.

                          Plus, I'd like to know if connecting jacks half-way in the inserts break the signal paths, because I may want to use these out as additional/backup analog outs.

                          Excellent question! Unfortunately I'm in Tokyo and away from my studio, but I will check when I return home...or maybe someone from PreSonus can answer before I get back?
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                          • #73
                            Great reviews of the newest Digimax. I bought three of the 96K at about the time when the FS came out. I went with the 96k for the limiters as well as individual phantom and pads. I don't think I will buy the FS just for the fact that I have 24 channels of Digimax pre's and will probably jump to boutique pre-amps that add certain character sound quality.
                            I emailed the company a while back and here is a little extra info:
                            "The LT and original 48k DM use 24bit Alesis converters. The Digimax96k and Digimax FS use higher end AKM's. All 4 have different preamp designs. ; ) We like to keep it interesting rather than copy/paste the same preamp design over and over like some folks do."
                            So they are also saying, that their A->D converters are of greater quality as well. This I think is very important, because the preamp design is half the sound and by using the ADAT or digital outs, you are accessing very good quality A->D conversion. If they had used lesser converters, there would be the possibilty that the analog output quality would be better than the digital output. Aswe see with the FS, the digital outputs and flexibilty are what make the product extremely unique and beneficial beyond just being another pre-amp on the market
                            Paul Magro
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                            • #74
                              What about a comparison between the Digimax 96K and the Digimax FS? I know the 96K have special limiters that are supposed to smooth out clipping as well as a little better converters. But, regarding the limiting functions, as long as you keep the gain low enough is the limiter an advantage at all? Secondly, what is the sound quality difference in the A->D Converters between the 96K and the FS?

                              Thanks,
                              Matt

                              P.S. Thanks for the GREAT review!

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                              • #75
                                I don't have a 96k, so I can't really offer any comparisons...anyone out there have comments?
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