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  • #31
    Well, I followed the directions in the previous reference, deleted two MIDI registry entries that appeared to be duplicates, rebooted, and...yup, it's all working now! Thanks for the tip, Athan. It just may help some other people as well.

    Tonight is ending on a much better note than last night
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    • #32
      Oh, one quick user "wish list" request. Do you plan on offering templates for additional host programs at some point? If so I'd recommend Live and Pro Tools.
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      • #33
        The protocol for the XS remote is basically like Mackie control so if Live supports that it may work, but has not be tested by Yamaha.

        The only thing that is available for third party Pro Tools control is HUI which has not be updated recently and is ....... well not very elegant, to put it nicely.

        BTW, the registry limitation is a common problem for people and it is good to let people know how to solve the issue which is a Windows limitation and not an issue with Yamaha USB driver at all as you pointed out.

        You have a great deal of patience because most people can't wait to dive into the sounds and performances on the XS !
        Athan Billias
        Director of Marketing
        Pro Audio and Combo Division
        Yamaha Corporation Of America

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        • #34
          You have a great deal of patience because most people can't wait to dive into the sounds and performances on the XS !


          Just because I haven't covered the sounds yet doesn't mean I haven't been playing with them But frankly, it's not like Yamaha has to prove itself about its sounds...and the computer/integration/networking capabilities are something that set the Motif XS apart. I was concerned that if I said "Hey, the clavs sound really good!" the reaction would be "yeah, okay, but what about this Cubase AI thing?!?"

          I figured once I got the whole computer communication thing squared away (thanks again, Athan), then we could get into the more standard stuff.

          But there are so many aspects to the XS it's going to be hard not to jump around a bit anyway....
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          • #35
            Major Kudos to both Anderton and Athan Billias. Very nice to have someone from Yamaha giving us a view from the "horses mouth".

            Anderton your recent network adventure has given me the reassurance that I was hoping for. Thanks for taking that diversion. Yamaha has really done their homework. This board is going to be a worthy addition to the line.

            As a someone who was so impressed with the Mo6 (enough to make it my "board name") I am looking forward to purchasing the XS. Since I have some experience with integrating the Mo with Logic, I have no doubt that the XS will have no troubles in this area.

            As for the remote control feature, this is also a feature that is well implemented already. If your DAW works with a Mackie control and you do not have a control surface already, you will be amazed at just how much you can do right from the synth.

            The communication with the editor as Athan has pointed out is a dream since it is truly is a two way system and it is SO nice to edit on the computer screen and have it reflected instantly in the sound on the board.

            Knowing the reactions I have recieved from the sound of my board, I am sure that the sounds of the XS will be killer.

            Thanks, Anderton, Athan and Yamaha.

            Yamaha you have figured out how to keep me a fan of the best synth out there in my opinion, take a DEEP board and make it DEEPER!
            RME----------/Spectrasonics
            Fender-----------------------/Western Digital
            Digitech----------------------/Frontier Design
            Yamaha---/Audio Technica
            Rocktron------/DiAddario
            Propellerhead-------/Dean
            Focusrite------------/Bias
            Alverez----/Mackie
            Alesis-/TC Helicon
            JBL---------/Sure
            KLH---/Garritan
            Peavy--/Apple

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            • #36
              Bottom line.

              Should I buy an XS & is it really worth that amount of money?

              Of course my music is very important to me.

              http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Keyboard+And+MIDI/product/Yamaha/Motif+XS8/10/1
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              This has given me second thoughts. One guy is as happy as Larry & the other is
              peed off.

              YOur thought's would be a great help as this is loads of dosh.lol

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              • #37
                http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Keyboard+And+MIDI/product/Yamaha/Motif+XS8/10/1
                ^
                This has given me second thoughts. One guy is as happy as Larry & the other is
                peed off.

                YOur thought's would be a great help as this is loads of dosh.lol


                Well the Pro Review concept is to give my thoughts, but also allow others to contribute their opinions. As to the two diametrically opposed user reviews, I do have some comments on the negative review.

                It's true that the display angle is not adjustable, but I wonder if the reviewer realized there's a contrast control on the back. Because I have the XS6 set up on an office desk rather than a keyboard stand to make it easier to post in the Pro Review, it's quite high..about the level of my sternum. By adjusting the contrast I have no problems reading the display, although one with an adjustable angle would be nicer.

                As to the sequencer, I haven't gotten to that...the user reviewer is also upset that the XS6 seems designed to serve as a front end for sequencers as well as a keyboard (not just Cubase, he got that wrong), but frankly, that's one of the things i like about the XS6...having sequencer control right on the keyboard, and a control surface, makes for a more ergonomic package.

                Regarding screen redraws...

                ...hold on a few minutes...I'll be back....
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                • #38
                  So I made a little video of the screen redraws you can download, so you can decide for yourself whether it's fast enough. I hit the buttons real hard so you can hear where the changes were initiated (and didn't break the buttons, either).

                  For the first four changes, i chose what was pretty much the four slowest redraw situations I could find. The second group of four are more like what you'd expect. If screen is just refreshing text, the changeover is pretty much instantaneous. If there's extensive redrawing of graphical elements, it takes a little longer.

                  I've included both a WMV and MOV movie, however, the "fidelity" of the WMV is far superior...as a side note, it seems Windows Media works much better than QuickTime if you need to create super-compressed files.

                  By the way...if your computer only lets you download the file as attachment.php, go ahead and download it, then change the file name to a .MOV or .WMV suffix, depending on which one youd ownloaded.
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                  • #39
                    It's not that bad at all really. I could live with that. Thank you.

                    The only other question I have is.

                    I've heard the song demos (done by sound designers) but what I'd like to hear is just a normal person's attempts. I don't mean for that to come of how it sounds.

                    Could you demo some of your own user presets?

                    Of course the big question is the orchestral sounds. There is only one song I can find & I'd love to hear more.

                    A....You are the man & thanks so much for you report & care.

                    Errr... Sorry to ask.

                    Your Mr...OMG!!!!

                    Cough....er....please to meet you sir. Wow.
                    P.s your gnx4 book has really helped me.

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                    • #40
                      There are lots of reviews and tons of information at www.motifator.com.
                      Most of the people who have Motif XS post there so you may want to check that site out.
                      Athan Billias
                      Director of Marketing
                      Pro Audio and Combo Division
                      Yamaha Corporation Of America

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                      • #41
                        There are lots of reviews and tons of information at www.motifator.com.
                        Most of the people who have Motif XS post there so you may want to check that site out.


                        Tar very much dude.

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                        • #42
                          Before getting into the sounds, I figured I'd try one more experiment. I set up Live for Mackie Control, and the XS6 works with it. The only glitch I've found so far is that the panpots don't cover their full travel when adjusted from the XS6 - they only cover from about the 10 o'clock to 2 o'clock position. But one very cool feature is that you can use the data wheel to select different scenes.

                          Also, lots of the other buttons (for OK, Cancel, selecting draw mode, etc.) work as well. I'm eager to get to the sounds so I'm not going to check out every button and control, but while Live is not "officially" supported, it does indeed work to some extent.
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                          • #43
                            Update - I've spent all night recording some sound examples, but it's too late to edit and post them...see you tomorrow (yawn).
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                            • #44
                              RIP: Nite Owl Jazz

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                              • #45
                                Okay...the following posts have a bunch of audio examples. Most of them are based on performances containing multiple sounds, and use arpeggiation to good effect, with my playing on top of the background riffs.

                                This not only shows off the "backup band" aspect of the performances, but it's an easy way to show off lots of sounds at once. For example, pay attention to the drums, which are pretty hip and different for the various performances. Incidentally, these are all factory preset performances and really, I just kinda stepped through them...there's so much more than this, but at least you'll get a taste.

                                As to how these were recorded, I just played them in real time...no fancy MIDI editing or anything, recorded the results, and trimmed 'em down to about 30 seconds so they'd fit the BBS's current limitation of 400k MP3 files. This also means I had to cut them at 96kbps, so the highs don't really do the Motif XS6 justice, but they're definitely good enough to give you some idea of what this board can do.
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