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  • #16
    Hi John...

    Giving this a bit of a bump a couple of months after the fact. Any updates on how it's been working out for you?

    I'm interested in this concept because my MOTU 2408's seem to have those DB25 connectors and I have no gear to interface them with. In theory, I could combine those connectors with the XLR or TRS ends and then make the appropriate connection to my micpreamps/DI's? I'm moving into a bigger studio space this summer and am working on redesigning my rig and upgrading components, so this looks like it could be a fantastic option if it would work!

    Is it possible to just go TRS to DB25 into the MOTU without use of a breakout cable if I don't need that extra length?
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    • #17
      I'm interested in this concept because my MOTU 2408's seem to have those DB25 connectors and I have no gear to interface them with. In theory, I could combine those connectors with the XLR or TRS ends and then make the appropriate connection to my micpreamps/DI's? Is it possible to just go TRS to DB25 into the MOTU without use of a breakout cable if I don't need that extra length?


      I'm not familiar with the MOTU, but isn't the DB25 connector for digital audio? If so, then you couldn't use the Modular Snake for what you describe, nor could you use any "straight cable" solution to connect an analog audio out (mic pre) to a digital audio in (dsub connection on 2408).
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      • #18
        I'm not familiar with the MOTU, but isn't the DB25 connector for digital audio? If so, then you couldn't use the Modular Snake for what you describe, nor could you use any "straight cable" solution to connect an analog audio out (mic pre) to a digital audio in (dsub connection on 2408).


        Yeah, that's where I got confused. They look identical, but these are TDIF connections, meaning they're practically useless to me. I had hoped this would be a decent workaround, but obviously it's not.
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        • #19
          I was looking to see how many different standards used on these cables when I found this forum.

          Here are the answers I found:
          Analogue wiring is always the same.
          Digital (AES3) wiring has 2 types:
          1. Tascam / Digidesign
          2. Yamaha

          The Tascam chart is easy to follow, but has Tascam only:
          http://cachepe.zzounds.com/media/DB-25_Pinout-08262df8df85fdf382d9c6b2771f5146.pdf

          The Aviom chart has both Tascam and Yamaha
          http://www.aviom.com/library/Technical-Resources/75_DB25-Pinout-Information.pdf

          Mamba does a AES3 XLR breakout box for 4 connectors and wires them both ways. How clever.


          The only other thing to consider is there are both metric and imperial screws on different gear. Watch out for that one!

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          • #20
            i'm considering this as a solution for da conversion because i want 24 channels ad to my laptop but only need 8 da at a time, so i could plug 4x8 channels into my mixer's mix b and do mixdowns that way exept the total price for the snakes might be too high, still cool to consider..

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            • #21
              Hmmmm....we have db connectors at work....I should make one of these.

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              • #22
                Hmmmm....we have db connectors at work....I should make one of these.


                For me, life's too short to solder db connectors, even if you're really good at soldering and have really good equipment. And then you need 8-strand lengths of insulated cable, to boot.
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                • #23
                  I am trying to make a quick connection to/from my rack gear to my pedal board. I was looking for a connector and cable with 20+ conductors. This seems like the ticket. I would just need the core cable and then I would build a custom breakout box into my rack and my pedalboard. However, all of my signals are unbalanced.

                  Do you know if each conductor is individually shielded? I am worried about noise and cross-talk with the unbalanced signals.
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                  • #24
                    I'm looking into getting one of the Radial Workhorses that are about to come out and it has a DB25 connection for it's summing mixer?

                    I guess I still am not really sure what the purpose of the connector is and why it's necessary. :idk:
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