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  • #16
    Okay...I don't want to dwell on the controller thing TOO much, because there's a lot more to cover. But I really felt this was a good place to start, just because 1) Live is at its best with a live performance controller, and 2) the APC40 just plain rocks.

    Besides, the APC40 review I did for the Harmony Central Confidential newsletter is now published. Of course you're all intelligent people so I'm sure you've already subscribed, but if not, click here for the full review, including lots of pretty pictures
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    • #17
      Okay...I don't want to dwell on the controller thing TOO much, because there's a lot more to cover. But I really felt this was a good place to start, just because 1) Live is at its best with a live performance controller, and 2) the APC40 just plain rocks.

      Besides, the APC40 review I did for the Harmony Central Confidential newsletter is now published. Of course you're all intelligent people so I'm sure you've already subscribed, but if not, click here for the full review, including lots of pretty pictures


      When i saw the APC40 announced i thought it would be much more expensive than it really is...

      $399 is not "a little", but i certainly think its a bargain when you consider the door this controller opens to you and your music, isnt it?
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      • #18
        When i saw the APC40 announced i thought it would be much more expensive than it really is...

        $399 is not "a little", but i certainly think its a bargain when you consider the open this controller opens to you and your music, isnt it?


        I agree, especially because I think the build quality is definitely above average.

        I can't emphasize enough that it really feels like there was serious thought put into this controller - it wasn't just a "Hey, let's throw some parts in a box and sell it to Ableton fans" type of project. The people who put it together are clearly Live aficionados.
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        • #19
          I agree, especially because I think the build quality is definitely above average.

          I can't emphasize enough that it really feels like there was serious thought put into this controller - it wasn't just a "Hey, let's throw some parts in a box and sell it to Ableton fans" type of project. The people who put it together are clearly Live aficionados.


          You are making me regret not buying the APC40, I was after that one, but decided to buy the Mackie Universal Control (previous version) instead...

          OH WELL!!!

          (btw, I am a Full Live User - it is my main DAW)

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          • #20
            The Mackie Universal Control ain't too shabby, either, and Live does support it as a controller...as do many other programs. Besides, you get motorized faders, so don't feel too bad. After you make it big , you can buy an APC40 and use it for 8 channels, and the Mackie for another eight.
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            • #21
              I'm very impressed. I think the APC40 is a smash hit! Outstanding build quality and elegant design.

              At the last Chicago Ableton User Group, the question came up:

              What if you want to map the pan controls of the APC from the default to functions such as tempo or chain select? From what I can tell, to do this we must disengage the apc40 control surface template. And then midi-map-mode assign the controller settings. But then, the lights on the APC are mute, which is no fun.

              Any ideas for a work around on this?

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              • #22
                tell about groups in live 8.
                I have been a live user since version 4.
                I am on 7 now, and I have decided to wait to upgrade.
                The groups are the main feature I am interested in.
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                • #23
                  First let me say the Pro Review concept is a very cool idea and this is my first time posting on Harmony Central.

                  It took me a while to understand that Live is a musical instrument that just happens to look like a sequencing program. Once I realized that, I also realized that it needed to be played, not just programmed.
                  ....
                  And now, Akai has introduced the APC40 controller, designed in conjunction with Ableton and 3.5 years in the making.


                  Very well put and I couldn't agree more. I started with Live 3 and the "software as an instrument" light bulb came on for me with version 6. Now Live is my primary instrument and DAW. I'm an Operator and Sampler fan and upgraded to Suite when I went from 7 to 8. I also use Live to host a wide variety of VSTs.

                  I've been using a Novation Remote SL and M-Audio trigger finger to "play" live and do sequencing on-the-fly in session view for some time. To reduce mousing I started using a Wacom tablet (and I'm happy to report Live 8.0.2 added improved tablet support).

                  For me the APC40 is a game changer - especially when used in conjunction with my other controllers.

                  Regarding the Live 8 upgrade, there has been a lot of coverage in the magazines and on blogs about the "big" features included in Live 8 - but as time goes on I'm really appreciating the little changes and improvements in functionality and workflow.

                  For example, I just posted a step-by-step video tutorial describing Ableton Live 8's new custom parameter mapping methodology. The video illustrates how to map select parameters from VST plug-ins into devices and then control these parameters via the Novation Remote SL and the new Akai APC40. The video also discusses how to add and access more than 8 parameters. Lastly, the video covers use of instrument racks and macro controls to map parameters from multiple devices to an 8 knob group.


                  Click here to watch the video on Modulate This.

                  I'm also quite excited about the upcoming Max 4 Live and the ability to take Live's real-time workflow into the realm of custom device creation.

                  Live 8 + the APC40 + Max 4 Live = an incredible year for Live users!

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                  • #24
                    What if you want to map the pan controls of the APC from the default to functions such as tempo or chain select? From what I can tell, to do this we must disengage the apc40 control surface template. And then midi-map-mode assign the controller settings. But then, the lights on the APC are mute, which is no fun.


                    Actually it's very easy to override the APC's automatic mappings with custom ones - and you don't lose the lights or the bi-directional feedback.

                    To do this, simply enter MIDI Map Mode, touch the parameter to map, then touch the control on the APC. It isn't necessary to disengage the controller template first. All of the other automatic mappings are left alone, and co-exist with the manually mapped ones.

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                    • #25
                      Thanks Dennis, I was just about to test that out myself and give a response...but you saved me some time, so now I can check out the new guitar-related stuff instead!!!
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                      • #26
                        tell about groups in live 8.
                        I have been a live user since version 4.
                        I am on 7 now, and I have decided to wait to upgrade.
                        The groups are the main feature I am interested in.


                        Live 8's Group Tracks are quite simple, but very powerful.

                        To create a group, simply select multiple clip tracks (any combination of audio and/or MIDI tracks works) and combine them to a group using a key command or the Group Tracks command in the Edit menu.

                        The new Group Track is essentially just an audio track that doesn't play clips, but rather sums the audio output of the contained tracks. The Group Track itself can contain any number of audio effects just like a normal track, so you can easily create submix effects routings using groups.

                        Group Tracks in both Session and Arrangement views can be folded or unfolded to hide or show the contained tracks. You can use a Group Track as a simple folder track by setting the contained track's routings back to the Master (instead of to "Group," which they change to by default when creating the Group.)

                        Although Group Tracks don't contain clips, in the Session View they do contain slots with play/stop buttons. This allows you to launch/stop all of the contained clips on the currently selected scene.

                        Once a Group is created, you can drag tracks into or out of it.

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                        • #27
                          Live 8 has a new effect that seems clearly designed for guitarists -- Overdrive. The attached image shows the Overdrive module toward the left.

                          The filter is very much like the filter in the Filter Delay, and the filter user interface works the same way. But here we have Drive and Tone controls, along with Dynamics and Dry/Wet.

                          I liked Dynamics best around the halfway point--it gives a solid, chunky sound. The first audio example is the sound produced by the controls in the attached image. Note the 8-band "EQ Eight" at the end of the signal processing chain; the more I get into using amp sims and processors, the more I'm into "mastering" the output with EQ. (Just for background - when mastering, for me sophisticated EQ is the most important component. Besides, with amp sims, dynamics control is usually taken care of somewhere else within the signal chain.)

                          The second audio example uses the same basic overdrive settings as the first example, but with less highs and a bit of a midrange scoop.

                          This effect is actually pretty cool for distortion, and of course, with the whole rack concept you can throw in compression, chorusing, reverb, and the like in series or parallel or whatever. However, in this example, I wanted to show as "unadorned" an example as possible so you'd get a good idea of at least one type of distortion sound.

                          Bonus: The audio examples are cut as loops, so go ahead and use them in your Live projects if you want
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                          • #28
                            Oh - I probably should have mentioned that the guitar is a Gibson Dark Fire, using only the magnetic pickups and the "Rock" Chameleon tone.
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                            • #29
                              Oh - I probably should have mentioned that the guitar is a Gibson Dark Fire, using only the magnetic pickups and the "Rock" Chameleon tone.


                              are you saying, or bragging??? :cop::cop:

                              Just kidding.... :lol:

                              but, a little bit off topic but how do you feel the guitar?, and also... I heard that you can create "sounds" with live and save them in that guitar??? or did I misunderstood???

                              Thanks!
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                              • #30
                                but, a little bit off topic but how do you feel about the guitar?


                                I LOVE IT. I'm not selling my PRS or my Tele, but damn, Dark Fire is amazing. The hex pickup, piezo out, magnetic out, automatic tuning, Chameleon Tones...it's an electronic guitarist's delight, but it's not a "freak" guitar. In some ways it's very traditional, it just does a lot more than other axes.

                                I heard that you can create "sounds" with live and save them in that guitar??? or did I misunderstood???


                                Not that I know of...but I use Live as a host for hex guitar presets, and save them as Live projects.

                                Okay, enough detour
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