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  • Winter NAMM is around the corner - heard any rumors?

    Well, have you?



    I'm wondering if Avid will announce or release Pro Tools 11. On my personal wish list would also be a Thunderbolt interface / DSP product from them - I don't see any reason why the DSP has to be on a PCI-e card anymore - not with Thunderbolt's speed. And of course, UA is already doing it with their Apollo...
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    - Sir George Martin, All You Need Is Ears

    "The music business will be revitalized by musicians, not the labels or Live Nation. When the musicians decide to put music first, instead of money, the public will flock to the fruits and the scene will be healthy again."

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    On the contractor side look for an expansion of the HAL line from Rane.
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    Because we floggers won the music war some time ago.

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    <i>Preaching to the choir Rush in on a whole different level to quote a movie You might listen to Rush but you cant here Rush</i>

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      On the contractor side look for an expansion of the HAL line from Rane.
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      Originally Posted by <b>Uma Floresta</b> View Post<br />
      Because we floggers won the music war some time ago.

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      Originally Posted by <b>Mike Riley</b> View Post<br />
      <i>Preaching to the choir Rush in on a whole different level to quote a movie You might listen to Rush but you cant here Rush</i>

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        Quote Originally Posted by Phil O'Keefe
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        Well, have you?



        I'm wondering if Avid will announce or release Pro Tools 11. On my personal wish list would also be a Thunderbolt interface / DSP product from them - I don't see any reason why the DSP has to be on a PCI-e card anymore - not with Thunderbolt's speed. And of course, UA is already doing it with their Apollo...




        It's been my understanding that Thunderbolt basically IS PCI-e - it just extends it outside the computer chassis. So there shouldn't be any real reason not to have the DSP on the actual interface.



        That said, an Omni with HDX built in would probably still cost ten or twelve grand.
        Joshua L.<br>Decatur, AL

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          Quote Originally Posted by Phil O'Keefe
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          Well, have you?



          I'm wondering if Avid will announce or release Pro Tools 11. On my personal wish list would also be a Thunderbolt interface / DSP product from them - I don't see any reason why the DSP has to be on a PCI-e card anymore - not with Thunderbolt's speed. And of course, UA is already doing it with their Apollo...




          It's been my understanding that Thunderbolt basically IS PCI-e - it just extends it outside the computer chassis. So there shouldn't be any real reason not to have the DSP on the actual interface.



          That said, an Omni with HDX built in would probably still cost ten or twelve grand.
          Joshua L.<br>Decatur, AL

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            I have heard that Julian Storer (Jules) is working on software to be revealed at the show. He is the creator of J.U.C.E. and the daw Tracktion. Speculation is he has regained control over Tracktion and will be announcing a new version. He (Jules) has chimed in over at the KVR Tracktion forum asking questions and asking users of Tracktion to be patient. Mackie took over Tracktion and the support from Mackie have been lacking (no updates). Over at KVR the Tracktion forum use to be called Mackie Tracktion, know its just called Tracktion. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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              I have heard that Julian Storer (Jules) is working on software to be revealed at the show. He is the creator of J.U.C.E. and the daw Tracktion. Speculation is he has regained control over Tracktion and will be announcing a new version. He (Jules) has chimed in over at the KVR Tracktion forum asking questions and asking users of Tracktion to be patient. Mackie took over Tracktion and the support from Mackie have been lacking (no updates). Over at KVR the Tracktion forum use to be called Mackie Tracktion, know its just called Tracktion. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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                Quote Originally Posted by MrJoshua
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                It's been my understanding that Thunderbolt basically IS PCI-e - it just extends it outside the computer chassis. So there shouldn't be any real reason not to have the DSP on the actual interface.



                That said, an Omni with HDX built in would probably still cost ten or twelve grand.






                That's my understanding too - Thunderbolt is certainly speedy! But you're probably in the ballpark on the prices - I'm not sure it would be a cost savings thing, except for maybe the host computer - you could use an iMac or MacBook instead of a Mac Pro - and that would be big news. For myself, being able to take a HDX setup with me when I travel would be fantastic.



                I was looking at the HDX stuff last night, and it's my understanding that a core HDX setup with one card is roughly like a HD|5 Accel setup in terms of DSP horsepower, so I imagine most of the people who are moving up from a HD|2 or HD|3 wouldn't need a two card HDX setup - at least not at first.
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                "Look at it this way: think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of 'em are stupider than that."

                - George Carlin

                "It shouldn't be expected that people are necessarily doing what they appear to be doing on records."

                - Sir George Martin, All You Need Is Ears

                "The music business will be revitalized by musicians, not the labels or Live Nation. When the musicians decide to put music first, instead of money, the public will flock to the fruits and the scene will be healthy again."

                - Bob Lefsetz, The Lefsetz Letter

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                  Quote Originally Posted by MrJoshua
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                  It's been my understanding that Thunderbolt basically IS PCI-e - it just extends it outside the computer chassis. So there shouldn't be any real reason not to have the DSP on the actual interface.



                  That said, an Omni with HDX built in would probably still cost ten or twelve grand.






                  That's my understanding too - Thunderbolt is certainly speedy! But you're probably in the ballpark on the prices - I'm not sure it would be a cost savings thing, except for maybe the host computer - you could use an iMac or MacBook instead of a Mac Pro - and that would be big news. For myself, being able to take a HDX setup with me when I travel would be fantastic.



                  I was looking at the HDX stuff last night, and it's my understanding that a core HDX setup with one card is roughly like a HD|5 Accel setup in terms of DSP horsepower, so I imagine most of the people who are moving up from a HD|2 or HD|3 wouldn't need a two card HDX setup - at least not at first.
                  **********

                  "Look at it this way: think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of 'em are stupider than that."

                  - George Carlin

                  "It shouldn't be expected that people are necessarily doing what they appear to be doing on records."

                  - Sir George Martin, All You Need Is Ears

                  "The music business will be revitalized by musicians, not the labels or Live Nation. When the musicians decide to put music first, instead of money, the public will flock to the fruits and the scene will be healthy again."

                  - Bob Lefsetz, The Lefsetz Letter

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                  • #10






                    Quote Originally Posted by Phil O'Keefe
                    View Post

                    That's my understanding too - Thunderbolt is certainly speedy! But you're probably in the ballpark on the prices - I'm not sure it would be a cost savings thing, except for maybe the host computer - you could use an iMac or MacBook instead of a Mac Pro - and that would be big news. For myself, being able to take a HDX setup with me when I travel would be fantastic.



                    I was looking at the HDX stuff last night, and it's my understanding that a core HDX setup with one card is roughly like a HD|5 Accel setup in terms of DSP horsepower, so I imagine most of the people who are moving up from a HD|2 or HD|3 wouldn't need a two card HDX setup - at least not at first.




                    I believe one HDx card is suppose to be rought equal to an HD3-5. However I think some plug makers are still struggling to get their plugs running efficiently. So it just depends on what plugs you're using. No doubt it will get better in time.



                    That said, there is news coming from Waves about HDx and their plans for it. Who knows what, but it will be interesting to see what they say. It appears, at least on the DUC, as a lot of people are holding off upgrading until they know for sure what Waves plans are. And I believe all they've stated so far is they will eventually do AAX native, but don't have plans for DSP yet. So guessing they'll at least anounce their road map.
                    ∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆ Metric Halo 2882 Expanded +DSP, Event 20/20 bas, Etymotic ER4-PT and HF3, MacBook Pro 15" (early 2011 w/2.2 ghz i7 quad, 8GB Ram, 480 GB SSD), Pro Tools 11, Harrison Mixbus, and Reaper. Godin Progression, Godin LGSP-90 (NAMM ed.), Godin LGX-SA into an 11 Rack controlled by a FCB1010 with an Eureka Prom. A bunch of other stuff lying around.

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                      Quote Originally Posted by Phil O'Keefe
                      View Post

                      That's my understanding too - Thunderbolt is certainly speedy! But you're probably in the ballpark on the prices - I'm not sure it would be a cost savings thing, except for maybe the host computer - you could use an iMac or MacBook instead of a Mac Pro - and that would be big news. For myself, being able to take a HDX setup with me when I travel would be fantastic.



                      I was looking at the HDX stuff last night, and it's my understanding that a core HDX setup with one card is roughly like a HD|5 Accel setup in terms of DSP horsepower, so I imagine most of the people who are moving up from a HD|2 or HD|3 wouldn't need a two card HDX setup - at least not at first.




                      I believe one HDx card is suppose to be rought equal to an HD3-5. However I think some plug makers are still struggling to get their plugs running efficiently. So it just depends on what plugs you're using. No doubt it will get better in time.



                      That said, there is news coming from Waves about HDx and their plans for it. Who knows what, but it will be interesting to see what they say. It appears, at least on the DUC, as a lot of people are holding off upgrading until they know for sure what Waves plans are. And I believe all they've stated so far is they will eventually do AAX native, but don't have plans for DSP yet. So guessing they'll at least anounce their road map.
                      ∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆ Metric Halo 2882 Expanded +DSP, Event 20/20 bas, Etymotic ER4-PT and HF3, MacBook Pro 15" (early 2011 w/2.2 ghz i7 quad, 8GB Ram, 480 GB SSD), Pro Tools 11, Harrison Mixbus, and Reaper. Godin Progression, Godin LGSP-90 (NAMM ed.), Godin LGX-SA into an 11 Rack controlled by a FCB1010 with an Eureka Prom. A bunch of other stuff lying around.

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