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  • New mic advice

    Hey folks!

    I'm looking for a bit of advice on picking up some new mics.

    Coming up soon I'll be recording a friend's band, and I'd like to expand my mic collection a litle before hand.

    I currently have:

    Shure SM81 sdc

    Oktava MK-012 sdc

    Rode NT1-a ldc

    Samson CO-1 ldc (blegh)

    MCA SP-1 ldc (never really used, just got it for free from some dude.)

    assorted SM57s and 58s

     

    What I am looking at doing is either getting another SM81 or Oktava so that I'll have a matched stereo pair, or getting a pair of Cascade Fatheads, or the Cascade X-15, unless someone has some other recommendations. I'm mainly looking for something versatile, that I can also use hopefully for drum overheads.

    My budget is right around the $400 range, but the cheaper I go, the more I'll have left over for a kick mic - a Senheiser e604!

    Any help, advice, reviews, etc would be handy and greatly appreciated! Thanks!

     

     

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  • #2

    I think your instinct is right on with getting a second SDC, and you can buy either the Shure or the Oktava and get good results. I would not buy a pair of ribbons or even a single ribbon until you have a pair of SDCs.  If you have anything left over after buying another SDC and the kick drum mic, I would be inclined to start saving for a good large diaphram condenser.

     

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    • #3

      I'd probably opt for a second Oktava MC012 and use that as your stereo pair. I agree with Zooey that you probably should prioritize that, and then add ribbons. The Cascade Fatheads are really good mics, especially at the price, but every studio really should have a pair of decent SDC's. After that, I'd recommend adding one or two of the Cascade Fathead BE models (starting at $129 each) to your collection. They're great on guitar amps, and not too shabby on drum overheads either, although you may decide you want to add a bit of HF EQ to them to give the cymbals a little more sparkle.


      There may be other costs that you might not have thought of if you go with ribbons - remember too that with ribbon microphones, you're going to need a preamp with lots of clean gain on tap - upwards of 70dB, depending on what you're miking and at what distance. A lot of people like to use mic preamps that are specifically designed to work well with ribbon mics, and that's one possible route to take. The Cloud Cloudlifter boxes are another very good way to get some extra gain if your mic preamps aren't up to the task. The Cloudlifter Z is an especially versatile and useful box - not just for extra gain, but as a tone-shaping tool.

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      • #4

        PS Are you sure you really want to use a Sennheiser e604 on kick? I've never tried one there, but I have used them on toms before, and based on what I heard from that, I don't think I'd expect quite the low frequency response from the mic that I'd prefer to have in a kick drum mic - YMMV.


         

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        "Look at it this way: think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of 'em are stupider than that."

        - George Carlin

        "It shouldn't be expected that people are necessarily doing what they appear to be doing on records."

        - Sir George Martin, All You Need Is Ears

        "The music business will be revitalized by musicians, not the labels or Live Nation. When the musicians decide to put music first, instead of money, the public will flock to the fruits and the scene will be healthy again."

        - Bob Lefsetz, The Lefsetz Letter

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        • algernon7
          algernon7 commented
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          Thanks for the advice! I think I will go for another Oktava and a bass drum mic.
          I decided on the e604 after seeing this video:
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki3UtgNR4C0
          It seemed like the most balanced, and I really liked the sound of it. What other suggestions do you have? I'm all ears!


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