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  • what do you think of the Fairlight mfx3 plus + ????

    What do you think of the Fairlight mfx3 plus + ????

    What are the advantages of such a beast compared to Sonar or Cubase ?

    Dan
    http://musicinit.com/fastfingers.php An Experiment in 80's Technology

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  • #2
    Some people like dedicated hardware over using a general purpose computer. I have not tried that particular Fairlight, so I can't comment about the quality of the sound / converters, or the workflow.
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    • #3
      I was in Pittsburgh yesterday picking this up. I actually ended up with 2 mfx3 (second for spare parts) , an extra motherboard (yes that makes 3) all of the associated cables and get this ....SOME 24 BIT A/D channels....which was a big surprise to me.

      Despite the slow CPU this thing will be able to, and was designed to handle 24 tracks of recording live.

      I now have the major job of clearing out my kids junk from the Recreation Room to make room for this. Hopefully I will be able to fit whole bands in there for recording.

      Next on the agenda...building a table for the video monitor and finding some hooks to keep the cables off the floor.

      There are 2 thirty foot cables....to the video monitor and to the keyboard so the spinning hard drives can be far from the microphones.

      This also has many CLOCK ,PDIF and SMPTE ports for syncing with other devices such as my FOCUSRITE.

      No mic pre-amps , but that is what my mixers are for.

      Dan
      Last edited by techristian; 10-13-2017, 09:33 AM.
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      • #4
        Congrats! I passed over this thread when you first posted because the model number didn't ring a bell and I figured it was a synthesizer. Now that you jogged my memory, I remember drooling over one when they came out. It was really an advanced audio workstation for its day and I'll be eager to hear of how you get along with it.

        I still prefer my Mackie HDR24/96 over any software based DAW that I have, and use it whenever I don't need Pro Tools to keep the customer happy - which is pretty easy these days since I have hardly any customers.
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        • #5
          I have had friends advise me against this, but I'm confident that I will have this up running soon.

          Dan
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          • #6
            Without menus, mostly depending on keyboard shortcuts, this is the type of system requires that you don't walk away for too long. Otherwise you will forget how to run this.

            Dan
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            • #7
              Update Nov 21 2017

              Imagine buying a tape recorder with only LINE LEVEL inputs. Imagine that they are all BALANCED.

              This was my first hurdle to overcome. The original owner wired these up to a 96 point SWITCHCRAFT patch bay (which he also gave me) At first I tried to use UNBALANCED patch cords to check the Fairlight...NO GO. Now that I have the proper balanced TT Bantam cables the testing begins.
              So here is the current state of my MFX3+

              1) After unplugging an output FROM a SUSPECT mixer TO MY mfx3 the rebooting problem seems to be gone.(It would reboot randomly.) It may have just been a gliche or loose connection rebooting............

              2) Each D/A CARD HAS 4 CHANNELS X 6 CARDS. I still can't get anything recording on CHANNEL1 + 2 ..... 3+4 work fine, I have swapped cards and changed DIP SWITCH id's on the cards but 1+2 is still gone. I suspect a buffer at the input .(My fault for routing output into the input) After thumb screws removed on back, I don't know how to get to check the inputs. DB CONNECTORS WON'T BUDGE. The db plug and wiring running from the audio inputs looks fine and those were also switched around a few times...so the trouble is definitely behind the Channel 1-4 panel , but it won't move.

              3) I'm also looking at possibly 1 of 2 new mixers. (I need lots of SENDS for the pre-amps) ...the Mackie 32.8.2 is close by for only $299 US and a Behringer MX 3282A Eurodesk is also under $300

              4) I will need to solder up MANY special cables running to the patch bay.

              So...THAT IS WHERE I AM AT NOW.

              DAN

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              • #8
                Sounds like a great project. I'm in search of a new console to use with my Mackie 24-track recorder (with all balanced I/O) and I'm finding that these newfangled digital consoles, while they can mix six times as many channels as they have faders, don't have enough holes in them for all the connecions I'll need. They expect everything to go in and out of a computer on a single USB cable instead of to a piece of recording hardware.
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                • #9
                  Every audio input , on the Fairlight, is protected by a 1N4148 Diode in series. I have over 90 of these on hand. So hopefully ,I'll get channel 1&2 back...this way. I also have 6 extra cards, but I can't keep blowing these without fixing them.

                  Dan
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by techristian View Post
                    Every audio input , on the Fairlight, is protected by a 1N4148 Diode in series. I have over 90 of these on hand. So hopefully ,I'll get channel 1&2 back...this way. I also have 6 extra cards, but I can't keep blowing these without fixing them.

                    Dan

                    You remind me of what I was as a child obsessed with Electronics. I would spend days doing what you described.

                    You seem to really enjoyed this stuff and I have watched some of your YouTube videos were you did some demostrations.

                    You my friend are the most passionate person when it comes to electronic music.

                    I'll say you remind of Giovanni Giorgio Moroder, maybe you have similar stories.

                    Pretty cool.
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                    • #11
                      Thanks Audio Icon. Yes I have a brand new 24 bit Focusrite but this Fairlight has got a hold of me now. I'm still soldering cables for it and I bought a used Mackie 32.8.2 . Hopefully I'll start to record some drums by the end of the week and a new CD by the new year.

                      One person described the A/D convertors sound for this as "creamy" sounding. We shall see. There has to be something special about a system that was originally $40K....and I'm aiming to find out for myself. I love the JOG wheel !

                      As to those diodes...not on my MFX3+ ! Mine is full of surface mount components ! AAARGH !

                      Dan
                      Last edited by techristian; 12-06-2017, 10:42 PM.
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                      http://youtube.com/techristian My YOUTUBE channel
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by techristian View Post
                        Thanks Audio Icon. Yes I have a brand new 24 bit Focusrite but this Fairlight has got a hold of me now. I'm still soldering cables for it and I bought a used Mackie 32.8.2 . Hopefully I'll start to record some drums by the end of the week and a new CD by the new year.

                        One person described the A/D convertors sound for this as "creamy" sounding. We shall see. There has to be something special about a system that was originally $40K....and I'm aiming to find out for myself. I love the JOG wheel !

                        As to those diodes...not on my MFX3+ ! Mine is full of surface mount components ! AAARGH !

                        Dan
                        Hey Dan:

                        Are you doing some sort of video documentation for this project? Similar to your other videos.
                        That will be cool.

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                        • #13
                          Somehow I can't see myself recording 20 hours of cable soldering. Maybe a condensation at the end of it all culminating in some music !

                          Dan
                          http://musicinit.com/fastfingers.php An Experiment in 80's Technology

                          http://youtube.com/techristian My YOUTUBE channel
                          Music videos at http://musicinit.com/video.php

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by techristian View Post
                            Somehow I can't see myself recording 20 hours of cable soldering. Maybe a condensation at the end of it all culminating in some music !

                            Dan
                            Dan, Have you seen this video presented by Sonicstate? Although a lot of it is playing classic samples, there's various technical comments throughout:

                            "As well as bringing the cosmetics up to scratch, Robbie tackles the electronics with the help of Fairlight creator Peter Vogel, and also mods to include and SD card reader in place of all those massive 5 1/4 floppies and tapestreamers."
                             

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by electrow View Post

                              Dan, Have you seen this video presented by Sonicstate?
                              Yes. Thanks. I enjoyed it.

                              Dan

                              http://musicinit.com/fastfingers.php An Experiment in 80's Technology

                              http://youtube.com/techristian My YOUTUBE channel
                              Music videos at http://musicinit.com/video.php

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