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  • FWIW, I am HATING Windows 8.1 ...even more

    This thing with USB file transfers is still driving me crazy. Why can I record 5 minutes of 10 simultaneous tracks on an old Lenova X60 @ 48khz 24 bit running Windows XP, but not copy these same files over to my QUAD processor Win8 machine....in less than 1 hour ??

    One thing I learned is that Windows 8 wants to shut off the USB Hub all of the time so I disabled that but the problem still persists. I'm really beginning to think that this is some sick DRM thing that is happening. YES MICROSOFT...THESE REALLY ARE MY FILES THAT I'M TRYING TO MOVE...they don't belong to Sony or Hollywood !!

    I'm using a WALLET SIZED 750gb WD "My Passport" to move my files around.

    I need this portability of work and this is maddening.

    If I try to open Cubase directly from the Passport , it takes 15 minutes to start..

    Dan
    http://musicinit.com/fastfingers.php An Experiment in 80's Technology

    http://youtube.com/techristian My YOUTUBE channel
    Music videos at http://musicinit.com/video.php

  • #2
    oK...WE WILL TRY AGAIN ...I just bought a new motherboard ...a ASRock 960GC-GS FX ....

    Hopefully the nice Windows 8.1 people won't give me a hard time with the upgrade.

    My SATA ports and other issues with the old ECS A780GM "BLACK" motherboard....so we will see if Win 8.1 will shine on this new MOBO. Give me a few weeks to get this running. I ordered it from newegg....surface.


    Dan
    http://musicinit.com/fastfingers.php An Experiment in 80's Technology

    http://youtube.com/techristian My YOUTUBE channel
    Music videos at http://musicinit.com/video.php

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    • #3
      While you're at that maybe you can tell me why I duped 50+ gig of audio files to the same drive and got 60mb thruput.Took forever.
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      • #4
        Hey 1001 !! Did you just MOVE it from one folder to the other or COPY from one folder to the other?

        Dan
        http://musicinit.com/fastfingers.php An Experiment in 80's Technology

        http://youtube.com/techristian My YOUTUBE channel
        Music videos at http://musicinit.com/video.php

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        • #5
          Not all computers treat USB ports the same. I have USB 2.0 in about 7 different computers and the one in my studio is twice as fast as any of my others. I did tweak that computer to remove all kinds of crap running in the background. Shut down unnecessary services and crap like that.

          This Black Viper site helped with that. http://www.blackviper.com/service-co...onfigurations/ Be sure to print screen shots of your current settings before making any changes. Services are interdependent with one another and setting one for manual may disable something you need to start automatically. Never disable anything unless you know its supposed to be disabled or have run it manual long enough to know you'll never use it.

          You also may want to go into bios and see if the USB ports are on a shared IRQ. Some mother boards will let you switch IRQ's so the USB isn't shared with something hogging the buss. You can also switch cards around and try and trick it to move.

          Chances are the slow file moving is an issues with file indexing. You can turn indexing off on a drive so windows doesn't categorize where everything is, it just moves it. You can always turn it back on and index it later.

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          • #6
            Dan - is your My Passport drive close to full when you try moving files? If so, can you delete some stuff off and give the drive a good 20-30gb empty headroom? See if that makes a difference...?

            nat whilk ii

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            • #7
              get a mac

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              • #8
                Originally posted by techristian View Post
                Hey 1001 !! Did you just MOVE it from one folder to the other or COPY from one folder to the other?

                Dan
                It's a backup copy. Mostly .wav.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by nat whilk II View Post
                  Dan - is your My Passport drive close to full when you try moving files? If so, can you delete some stuff off and give the drive a good 20-30gb empty headroom? See if that makes a difference...?

                  nat whilk ii
                  No . Over 500gb of 750gb free but now that I copied most of them over using Linux....I found at least 40 files "unable to splice" or corrupted. So I did an XP NTFS slow reformat and hopefully it will lock out bad sectors. I don't care if I end up with 700 gb instead of 750 gb...as long as they are dependable and solid. It would of helped if Win 8.1 would have skipped bad files rather than HANGING UP on them (as long as it notified me that it skipped files)

                  But I have also had problems with USB KEY file transfers as well. I will try recording with this drive again after this fresh format BEFORE I replace the motherboard.

                  This new MOBO that I'm getting is a little bit more modern than the one I have now. It supports both AMD2 and AMD3 chips, my PCIE VIDEO CARD and DDR2 AND DDR3 memory. So I'm also expecting a bit of a Video speedup, because my old mobo was only PCIE 1 and this is PCIE2

                  I also needed some new SATA ports....so we will see.

                  Dan
                  Last edited by techristian; 10-29-2014, 09:59 PM.
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                  • #10
                    It took all night to slow format the WALLET. It still looks like 750 gb though ....so Windows format locked out few ,if any ,sectors.

                    However , the mailman already delivered my new motherboard !!

                    Dan
                    Last edited by techristian; 10-30-2014, 09:55 AM.
                    http://musicinit.com/fastfingers.php An Experiment in 80's Technology

                    http://youtube.com/techristian My YOUTUBE channel
                    Music videos at http://musicinit.com/video.php

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                    • #11
                      Good luck - I've had incredibly slow USB transfers to flash drives. However, when I've just used an old SATA drive stuck in an external enclosure with a USB cable, moving and copying between internal HDs and the external HD consistently goes very fast for some reason.

                      It'll be interesting to see if your new MOBO makes a difference - that's a big upgrade to deal with a pesky USB file transfer issue. Of course you'll probably see other benefits, hopefully....

                      nat whilk ii
                      Last edited by nat whilk II; 10-30-2014, 10:50 AM.

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                      • #12
                        I had some issues moving wave files to a thumb drive the other day where the files were corrupted and wouldn't open. The files would copy to the thumb drive but weren't recognized as playable files once they were on the disk.

                        I'm beginning to think it has something to do with the latest batch of Win upgrades.

                        I did find this: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...c-49dea2bba567


                        I'm probably going to try rolling back my system restore to an earlier date and see if that helps.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Goober(s) View Post
                          get a mac
                          I just ordered me a new Macbook Pro yesterday. My other one (the last of the 17") models is now dedicated to the new band project and I can't have my Quicken and other personal data files on a machine that I'll be hauling around to gigs!
                          http://www.crazydeliciousband.com/

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                          • #14
                            Thanks for all of your suggestions.

                            Here is what happened today.

                            First I tried recording to a 32gb USB stick...It worked ok for a few minutes but then choked. It was easy to move what was recorded on the stick to my Win 8 machine though.

                            Then I used nat whilk's suggestion and recorded to a full side usb drive with external power supply. It recorded flawlessly and transferred flawlessly............but figure out one problem and then another one crops up.

                            My Sony HDR-XR100 camcorder hard drive keeps getting corrupted. I cleaned it and reformatted it already once before, just recently, but it failed on me again today. So out of 1/2 or recording I managed to pull out 3 minutes of video to post online (even though it wasn't my best 3 minutes)

                            Then I moved the audio tracks and video pieces over to Vegas to put all together and Vegas shut down on me..in the middle of an edit.

                            So my "technical difficulties" are more than just a single computer problem.

                            Dan
                            Last edited by techristian; 10-30-2014, 09:53 PM.
                            http://musicinit.com/fastfingers.php An Experiment in 80's Technology

                            http://youtube.com/techristian My YOUTUBE channel
                            Music videos at http://musicinit.com/video.php

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                            • #15
                              Well, as I figured, HARDWARE wouldn't be the big headache .....replacing the motherboard. Once again Win8 is the big headache. Would it let me reformat the C: partition and install there? NO. It locked out the c: partition, installed on the d: partition and labelled it as c: . I also forced me to use a new username. Now, after the install, I can see the c: partition, labelled as d: . I doubt that the old apps will run from there, but later today I will try. There is a shell of Windows 8 running, on what used to be d: There is the file manager and a few apps, on the START screen, but very sparse. The WIN8 cd never gave me any option for "CLEAN INSTALL" So here I am.

                              oh ...and Win 8.1 was there before , but my install disk is only Win 8.0

                              Here is another link...."will continue to support Win8 bun not Win8.1" maybe I'm doing the wrong thing trying to update to 8.1 ??

                              http://www.infoworld.com/article/260...1-support.html

                              DAN
                              Last edited by techristian; 11-04-2014, 03:41 PM.
                              http://musicinit.com/fastfingers.php An Experiment in 80's Technology

                              http://youtube.com/techristian My YOUTUBE channel
                              Music videos at http://musicinit.com/video.php

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