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    Am I the only one who notices this? It seems that all of the recent movies and programs on Netflix and many other new shows, have the MUSIC SOUNDTRACKS VOLUME WAY UP , and the dialogue way down. To hear every word the actors are saying , you must turn the volume way up, but when the music starts your ears almost bleed !!

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    Oh, no, you're not the only one at all on that. It's not just the music that's pumped up, the explosions and blasts and roars and general demolition are also cranked.

    We have this "can you please turn it up???!!" thing that goes on when the family watches movies. Mom hates loudness in general, so we all accommodate her until we miss some mumble or other in the dialog...so we turn it up to catch the words only so the next explosion can take the hair off the cat.

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    • #3
      You're not the only one. I feel the same way as well.
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        I think that when I'm at NAMM ,in a few days, I'll be asking about a cheap IN LINE limiter.

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        • #5
          Yes, the soundtracks are mixed this way. If you're listening on a multi-channel system a pretty easy fix is to turn up the center channel as that is most often used exclusively for dialogue.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by davie View Post
            You're not the only one. I feel the same way as well.
            Ditto that.

            I just don't watch contemporary entertainment movies. Problem solved.

            And, you know, they're so blinkin' stupid anyhow. The mainstream culture is at an intellectual nadir. Stuff like GTA and the whole idiot gamer culture (two words: Flappy Birds), the inane crap on TV, the rejection of science or any complexity at all...
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            • #7
              I don't watch many modern "Hollywood Blockbuster" movies, but the few I do more often than not have the music and sound effects up way louder than the dialog.

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              • #8
                There also seems to be a tendency in modern dramas to have the actors speak quietly. This gives the impression (I presume) that they are more "serious", but the truth is that if it were reality, you'd have to have your ear pressed right up to their face to understand anything they are saying. I also presume that modern micing techniques no longer require actors need to be able to project their voices across the soundstage as they once did. This also contributes to the dialogue often being buried under the music and sound effects.
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                  Also----if you're just listening through the TV speakers, make sure you don't have the audio set for "wide" or one of the other signal-processed settings. Those can sometimes result in the dialogue getting buried.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by techristian View Post
                    I think that when I'm at NAMM ,in a few days, I'll be asking about a cheap IN LINE limiter.

                    Dan

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by techristian View Post
                      Am I the only one who notices this? It seems that all of the recent movies and programs on Netflix and many other new shows, have the MUSIC SOUNDTRACKS VOLUME WAY UP , and the dialogue way down...
                      I've been noticing for a long time. It's pretty bad. I don't watch many new movies because of this, unless I catch them at the theater. Since I've never gotten into computer video games I'm not acclimated to the way movies are made these days. It's all about effects and it looks so fake. I wonder if people who've been into gaming for a long time even realize how fake movies look and how bad they sound. It's distracting, but they're not making movies for people like me anymore.
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                      • #12
                        I like good movies, and dislike bad movies.

                        Unless they're really really *really* bad, in which case I may enjoy them nonetheless.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by guido61 View Post
                          There also seems to be a tendency in modern dramas to have the actors speak quietly. This gives the impression (I presume) that they are more "serious", but the truth is that if it were reality, you'd have to have your ear pressed right up to their face to understand anything they are saying. I also presume that modern micing techniques no longer require actors need to be able to project their voices across the soundstage as they once did. This also contributes to the dialogue often being buried under the music and sound effects.
                          If they were really serious actors, they wouldn't need a music bed telling us how to react.


                          And good point on the TV's sound settings. Many modern/not-so-modern TVs have various pseudo-surround, etc, settings and they can really mess things up.


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                          • #14
                            Not to mention that they are doing this with commercials also,but I have a MUTE button or SKIP button for those !!!! HAHAHAHA!!!

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                            • blue2blue
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                              Oh, heck yeah. My introduction to electronics was helping my old man install a simple switch to disconnect the speaker from the TV from across the room (wired, sadly). He got the idea from my grandfather -- who had his little home made entertainment center set up so that it switched from TV sound to whatever was on the stereo -- which was usually a commercial-less feed from the FM tuner he'd bought to 'intercept' the Muzak-style background music pumped out at the time by a number of radio stations (they'd usually just cut out the commercials leaving dead air... so when you'd go to a restaurant getting its background music from one of these systems (which the stations initially were able to charge for) there'd be long pauses between the Mantovani and the 101 Strings.

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                            Originally posted by blue2blue View Post
                            If they were really serious actors, they wouldn't need a music bed telling us how to react.
                            Good point! But I meant to say serious CHARACTERS, not actors. I first noticed this years ago on the show "24". It's like they are all whispering secrets to each other all the time. The "Low Talkers" my wife and I started calling them.

                            And good point on the TV's sound settings. Many modern/not-so-modern TVs have various pseudo-surround, etc, settings and they can really mess things up.
                            Yes, I remember this when I bought a TV set years ago---my last CRT set. It had a "wide" setting (I think it was called.) It was cool the way it made the stereo separation sound wider, but it lost a lot of the dialogue in the process! No midrange!

                            I've run TV sound through sound systems for years now, but I presume modern sets still have similar features. Although I hope maybe they work better these days!
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