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  • Recording "Direct" -- Is it really...

    that easy?

    Do you just plug your guitar into your soundcard and bang away? What about the gozintas and gozouttas? Shape the sounds you've created later with some "plug-in"?

    The inexperienced wanta know!
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  • #2
    I'm using the Sequis Motherload speaker simulator. It's awesome, because you can use your amps, shape the sound with various passive filters and you get a great sounding attenuator, as well.

    I've have a POD Pro, Sans Amp Gt2, Hughes&Kettner Tubeman and software simulators, but nothing comes close to the Motherload.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by el cochino
      I'm using the Sequis Motherload speaker simulator. It's awesome, because you can use your amps, shape the sound with various passive filters and you get a great sounding attenuator, as well.

      I've have a POD Pro, Sans Amp Gt2, Hughes&Kettner Tubeman and software simulators, but nothing comes close to the Motherload.


      What is your line-in, line-out setup? I assume that you're able to record directly to the computer without bothering the neighbors. Trace the signal path for me please.
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      • #4
        i just recorded direct a song i wrote yesterday. ....

        1. i used a Zoom PS02 to record the song
        2. played it through my soundcard
        3. recorded it using a free software programme called Goldwave (which i only just started using yesterday).

        i readily admit not knowing the greatest amount about it beforehand, but it worked out fine for me. it really couldn't have been much easier

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        • #5
          Originally posted by raggety
          i just recorded direct a song i wrote yesterday. ....

          1. i used a Zoom PS02 to record the song
          2. played it through my soundcard
          3. recorded it using a free software programme called Goldwave (which i only just started using yesterday).

          i readily admit not knowing the greatest amount about it beforehand, but it worked out fine for me. it really couldn't have been much easier


          Goldwave is the easiest sound editor program I've run across yet!
          God(s) bless the rest of the world(s), too

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Terry Allan Hall


            Goldwave is the easiest sound editor program I've run across yet!


            yeh i'm very pleased with it so far. like i don't have much of any previous experience of doing this kinda thing, but its simple to do with goldwave.

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            • #7
              I plug my guitar into a mxing desk which goes directly into my soundcard.

              I record with Nuendo. The Clean guitarsound.

              After that I use 1 of these :

              Green Machine Amp
              Native Instruments Guitarrig
              Amplitube
              Steinberg Warp Vst
              Nomad Factory - Rock Amp Legends
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              • #8
                Originally posted by boosh
                I plug my guitar into a mxing desk which goes directly into my soundcard.

                I record with Nuendo. The Clean guitarsound.

                After that I use 1 of these :

                Green Machine Amp
                Native Instruments Guitarrig
                Amplitube
                Steinberg Warp Vst
                Nomad Factory - Rock Amp Legends


                I presume using that set-up that you don't have any problems with impedence? I have a pro-tools system which is quite good, yet I hate *always* having to record through microphones. It would be nice to just record to the computer and monitor with headphones.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by talljohn


                  I presume using that set-up that you don't have any problems with impedence? I have a pro-tools system which is quite good, yet I hate *always* having to record through microphones. It would be nice to just record to the computer and monitor with headphones.


                  I have no troubles whatever recording guitar here.

                  Just make sure you don't record them hot. Give them 10db Headroom and you're safe.

                  Offcourse the plugin section costed a fortune but it was worth it. Ain't no Black and White cars in front of my house anymore to tell me to cut down the music.

                  In my opinion recording DI is the best when you have a small homestudio like me. No amps here and you can alter the sound each time you feel like it afterwards.

                  Endless possibilities.
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                  • #10
                    i think its great

                    im one of those tube guys, have been for about 15 years or so - but there have been some great advances in digital tech. i recently got my first Pod (2.0 w/ long floorboard) and was really surprised at the overall quality of sounds when you tweak your own presets to match your gear for recording. live jamming it still sounds great, but ill admit the feel and response of the tubes modelled is not always there - but also i cant take any points off for that being that its valuable for recording

                    i had heard alot of cool clips here at HC in the past few years done with pods and things like that, which really caught my attention, even those threads where someone posts a clip asking "what amp is it" - and get alot of tube amps in replies, then the poster would let loose the fact its a Pod


                    it is pretty easy, i just run mine straight into soundcard with a cable i "modified" - one end is the 1/4 inch guitar jack for the pod side and the other end is an 1/8inch jack for the PC line in. works like a charm.

                    i have gotten myself a midi cable and am fixing to upgrade my soundcard so i can also plug into the midi/gaming port just so i can dump my library of tones onto the PC, and if i ever loose mine (reset the Pod accidentally) they will be there to dump back to the Pod, as well as creating new patches without worrying about forgetting my settings if i want to recall just 1 patch of my personal setting.


                    i guess what im trying to say is i think they are a great tool. i still take my tube combo when i jam with others in a band setting, but i do like the tones on the pod enough that im going to invest in some kind of tube poweramp to try and get the sound AND feel live.

                    i admit that no matter what tweaks are done - even setting the switch to "amp" instead of direct, the Pod sounds much better through a flat amp (PA, stereo, etc.) than it does through most of the guitar amps ive tried it with, which is no biggie - thats why im interested in a tube poweramp. also, thats leads me to believe that it would come in mighty handy the way alot of folks use it - direct to the house PA. ive not tried it in a full band/volume setting, but wouldnt that be great to forgo the heavy amps and just bring a guitar with your backpack that houses your Pod/cables?
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                    • #11
                      I've been direct recording for quite a few years and have used all the following equipment at different times:

                      Tech 21 Trademark 60
                      Tech 21 Tri A.C.
                      Tech 21 GT2
                      Johnson J-Station
                      Yahmaha DG Stomp
                      Digitech RP series
                      Line 6 Flextone

                      I've done many demo quality recordings using only the line in of a Soundblaster sound card and monitoring through cheap Radio Shack headphones. Recording direct greatly simplifies getting a good sound to disk and allows you to come back a week later and overdub with a consistent sound (unlike trying to find the original mic position you used). As posted above there are also some great plugs ins. One I would suggest is SIR to model rooms and/or cabinets.

                      However, sometimes when you just can't find "that sound" nothing beats an off-axis SM57 on an amp in the closet...
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by talljohn


                        What is your line-in, line-out setup? I assume that you're able to record directly to the computer without bothering the neighbors. Trace the signal path for me please.


                        When I record direct, I use my amps with whatever pedal, speaker out into Sequis Motherload, line out into DI input of Chandler Limited TG2 mic preamp, into UREI 1178 limiter (mostly in bypass mode) into MOTU 192 converters. This is the 'silent' version. Sometimes, I combine this with a miced signal. SM57 or Sennheiser e609 or AKG 414 into the Chandler mic pre. To avoid phase issues between the direct and miced signal, I patch a Little Labs IBP box (a great tool that let's you adjust the phase of a signal from 0 - 180

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by el cochino


                          When I record direct, I use my amps with whatever pedal, speaker out into Sequis Motherload, line out into DI input of Chandler Limited TG2 mic preamp, into UREI 1178 limiter (mostly in bypass mode) into MOTU 192 converters. This is the 'silent' version. Sometimes, I combine this with a miced signal. SM57 or Sennheiser e609 or AKG 414 into the Chandler mic pre. To avoid phase issues between the direct and miced signal, I patch a Little Labs IBP box (a great tool that let's you adjust the phase of a signal from 0 - 180
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by el cochino


                            When I record direct, I use my amps with whatever pedal, speaker out into Sequis Motherload, line out into DI input of Chandler Limited TG2 mic preamp, into UREI 1178 limiter (mostly in bypass mode) into MOTU 192 converters. This is the 'silent' version. Sometimes, I combine this with a miced signal. SM57 or Sennheiser e609 or AKG 414 into the Chandler mic pre. To avoid phase issues between the direct and miced signal, I patch a Little Labs IBP box (a great tool that let's you adjust the phase of a signal from 0 - 180
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by talljohn


                              Now that is helpful. Gracias oh dirty one.


                              You're welcome oh tall one, even though I'm not sure if you're just being sarcastic. In case I didn't make too much sense, feel free to ask more questions, and I'll happily try to answer them.

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