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  • USB Sticks: I Can See Where It's Going...

    So I got an email from a Mac mail order company selling 1GB USB 2 memory sticks for $20. Yup, $20 (after mail in rebate).

    Now, the memory chips aren't that big, so suppose a manufacturer put 10 of them in a USB-friendly box and sold it for $199.99. You have 10GB of solid-state memory.

    Okay, next step: Windows Vista, which lets you use that memory stick as a RAM drive. So you do your recording to it and all of a sudden, you don't care that your laptop doesn't have a screaming fast hard drive because everything's being done in RAM.

    Could be fun, eh?
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    I'm a dolt. I thought flash memory was kind of slow to read and write to.
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    • #3
      I'm a huge fan of a move toward solid-state memory. My new portable stereo recording rig uses a preamp to a converter to a TASCAM HD-P2, which records to compactflash cards. It's totally silent. Tomorrow night I'm taking it to a church to record my classical guitar playing. Since it's totally silent, I can set it right next to me while playing and recording.

      Then I bring the rig home (under one arm), pop the CF card into a USB reader on my Mac, and dump the contents into Pro Tools. Works like a charm! No hard drive crashes, tiny, lightweight, easy.

      I'm dreaming of the day when the cards will be big enough to function directly as a drive as you describe. You can get 8GB cards, but they're still a bit pricey. Or if USB sticks make it to market first, I'm fine with that, too!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 60hurts
        I'm a dolt. I thought flash memory was kind of slow to read and write to.

        I guess not!
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        • #5
          Mitch Gallagher is in the house!

          Hey Mitch, IT'S TIME YOU RELEASED SOME MUSIC...yeah, I know, who am I to talk...
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          • #6
            Originally posted by MitchG
            I'm a huge fan of a move toward solid-state memory. My new portable stereo recording rig uses a preamp to a converter to a TASCAM HD-P2, which records to compactflash cards. It's totally silent.
            Does this suggest that the front end on the HD-P2 isn't worthy?

            And how much noise does your previous recorder make? I've never had anything less portable than an Ampex MM-1100 make too much noise to use to record a concert.

            I think that a flash card recorder is a good idea if you're willing to "do the maintenance" and clear out the memory so you can re-use it. At $20 for a gigabyte, you're right back around the cost of 1/4" tape. We never thought to erase a reel of tape the next day after making a recording, so maybe we're almost there. When I can afford media to record for a whole weekend, maybe I'll be ready to do more than a one-off concert on memory cards.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by MitchG

              I'm dreaming of the day when the cards will be big enough to function directly as a drive as you describe. You can get 8GB cards, but they're still a bit pricey.


              Let me ask you something. Remember when an 8GB hard drive cost over $200?
              Remember when a 128 *MEGABYTE* hard drive cost that much?

              Yeah, it's only a matter of when...And it'll be great. Computers will be lighter, quieter and cooler. On a similarly-related issue, a few months ago I changed the Zip drive on my Akai MPC2000XL to a multicard reader and bought a 512MB CF card...it's like this memory comes out of nowhere.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by elsongs
                Let me ask you something. Remember when an 8GB hard drive cost over $200?
                Remember when a 128 *MEGABYTE* hard drive cost that much?
                I remember my first 10 MB hard drive, to upgrade my PC clone to an XT clone. It cost $400. The 8086 (yeah, I was really on top of it in those days) with 256 KB of RAM and a Hercules clone monochrome graphics and two 360K floppy disks cost a grand.

                And I did a lot of field recordings with a $3,000 Nagra, too - but that was someone else's.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MikeRivers
                  I've never had anything less portable than an Ampex MM-1100 make too much noise to use to record a concert.


                  A "concert", maybe. But a solo performance in a church on voice or acoustic guitar, or piano? Of course you're better off with something that has no transport noise or other mechanical sounds. Why would anyone want more noise when less is now more and more commonly available?

                  And yes, Mike... people commonly do erase and re-use non-analog media. There's no degradation... no one even used a hard drive or Flash RAM until it "wore too thin to record", to the best of my knowledge.

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                  • #10
                    Craig, I can remember you writing about RAM disks years and yers ago... and IMO, that WILL be sweet when the prices have dropped low enough to make SS memory viable for recording purposes. I just got a flyer in the mail the other day myself - they had 2 GB flash drives for aroud $40. The prices are dropping, and that's a beautiful thing. Stick 10 of those in a case, and you have 20 GB of SS memory / storage for under $400. Heck, I can remember when my first 20MB HDD cost me several times that amount... (Yeah, I'm old. )
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MikeRivers
                      Does this suggest that the front end on the HD-P2 isn't worthy?

                      And how much noise does your previous recorder make? I've never had anything less portable than an Ampex MM-1100 make too much noise to use to record a concert.

                      I think that a flash card recorder is a good idea if you're willing to "do the maintenance" and clear out the memory so you can re-use it.


                      Not at all; I think the HD-P2 sounds very good by itself. I've been very happy with that recorder. But I have a couple of preamps that I particularly like -- Millennia HV3 and M2B -- for this application. And I really like the sound of my Universal Audio 2192 converter for acoustic music...though I just received a Benchmark ADC1 that is also wonderful.

                      For years all my systems have been computer-based, so there has been fan and drive noise. For something as quiet as classical guitar, it's an issue. I operate the recorder, etc., myself, so I like having it sitting on a little table right next to me, I can just drop one hand down and operate everything.

                      I'm not recording concert-length recordings with it at this point. Instead I'm capturing a number of takes of one song at a time, then picking the best. I dump to hard drive in the computer, back-up to a removable drive (and later to optical disc), then erase the CF card in the computer. Takes just a few seconds.

                      It works for me!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by elsongs


                        Let me ask you something. Remember when an 8GB hard drive cost over $200?
                        Remember when a 128 *MEGABYTE* hard drive cost that much?


                        My first hard drive was 32MB; I believe I paid over $500 for it...but then, I also remember typing in punch cards. Not that I'm THAT old!

                        Mitch
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Anderton
                          Hey Mitch, IT'S TIME YOU RELEASED SOME MUSIC...yeah, I know, who am I to talk...


                          I'm working on it! And, yeah, who are you to talk?
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                          • #14
                            <<a few months ago I changed the Zip drive on my Akai MPC2000XL to a multicard reader and bought a 512MB CF card.>>

                            That's brilliant!! So obvious I would never have thought of it...
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                            • #15
                              I'm waiting for somebody to make decent multitrack flashcard recorder. It's the silent and portable aspect that I want the most. My ideal would have digital inputs, for my choice of preamps and converters. Firewire or USB2 to get the files out. 8 tracks or more.

                              The hardware is actually here now - just needs somebody to put them together.

                              I expect capacities to increase, but i'd be happy with 10 minutes record time for 8 tracks at 24/44.1 for immediate use.

                              If it had a simple digital mixer and headphones for tracking purposes, that would be ideal. I could track guitars and drums together, or take a guide track to my favorite piano and multitrack it with zero setup time, or reamp a natural location reverb, or a zillion other things that would be so useful right now.

                              Existing technology makes noise, which requires long cables, and remote control and all sorts of unnecessary inconvenience.

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