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  • #31
    Well I'm doing a mix with it now - it rocks! Very intuitive for the most part, love dragging and dropping files in, editing is easy etc. Really digging it so far! The only problem I'm having with it is that it seems to hit a point where I experience dropouts sooner than other apps, particular if an effects window is open, or when I hit mute during playback. I've got 21 tracks in this tune, nothing that would ordinarily tax my machine. So, not sure what's going on there but otherwise I'm loving it. Setup was really easy too - my sound card isn't always recognized without some dinking around but Reaper just started up and began playing the demo piece right away, no tweaking.

    I have some projects coming up where we'll have 3 different people working on it, and this will be a great economical way to get us all running on the same platform! Fantastic...
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    • #32
      what soundcard? if it's a built in card, have you tried the asioforall driver? there's a link somewhere on the reaper site.
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      • #33
        I have a Digital Audio Labs CardDeluxe. It's a great sounding card, but for some reason the drivers can be tricky depending on the app. I just tried to upgrade to the latest driver and Reaper was totally hosed by it... then I reverted to the previous driver and now Reaper is happy but Sonar doesn't like it... AGGGHH.
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        • #34
          This is an amazing DAW. I KNEW a competent programmer could make a DAW without all the bloat!

          Craig, I suggest you make this post sticky.

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          • #35
            Lee F. MANY MANY reaper versions ago, when the app was quite different than it is now, sheesh 2 or 3 months ago LOL (this guy works FAST!!!) I sent him an RME hdsp9652 card

            We recieved ZERO help from RME, just some badmouth crap from their goons, but Justin has killed my normal RME problems anyway. People using RME in apps besides cubendo and samplitude will know what Im talking about likely. This after years of me working with the coders of other apps, with no success

            If you could find a way to have card d send him your model card I bet it wouldnt hurt. He has even gone out of his way to make a winME user happy (winME he claims not to support)

            I have never met a coder of a DAW like this. He slugs it out in the trenches with the troops and responds VERY fast to user feedback. New builds can be out hourly in quite a few cases.

            At first we mostly bugged him to add the few things we had waited for in Vegas for seven years but are still missing. Done done and done

            and then some!

            Now were sitting back and watching as he makes the MIDIots happy, and I gotta say, theyre just as fanatical as I am even though coming from MUCH different apps! Strange happy world that still fits on a floppy

            Recently I had to go to LA for a mix, and Justin flew down to meet me there. Every problem I had he quickly coded a way out of it! UN-FRIGGIN-REAL. Heres a thread about it http://www.cockos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=536
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Kokopelli Kanak
              Hi Mike. To invert phase, simply right click an event, or right click on a highlighted event while others are also highlighted to invert all selected at once, then chose Item Settings/Invert Phase
              Doggone! I was looking right at it. I saw the pulldown menu right next to that check box, looked at the choices, and said "nope, that's not it." I've been on my crusade to get people to say "invert Polarity" (rather than "Phase")for so long that I guess I must have blocked it out. Put that on your "things to correct becuase they're right even though everyone knows what it means" list.
              An M/S plug was discussed, I'll look into it for you, but I have been just using the chanmix to do it, while sending all three tracks S, S- and M to a folder track. Gives me one fader to control the whole deal
              That's pretty much what I was planning to do, though I hadn't figured out the "folder track" terminology yet. I'm just looking for something simpler than Sequoia to take along for light duty work. I'll never use all of the capability of the program because I just don't do most of those things, but if I can take advantage of its features as a recorder with a clean user interface and not a lot of overhead, that's a good thing.

              I haven't stumbled across how to create a new track that's a mix of my recorded tracks yet. Is there a button on there somewhere for that? I never played video games, so I'm not very good at poking around until I figure it out. I thought it might have been an FX but I keep coming up blank with nothing to select when I try that, even though I see folders with what look like effects (by name) when I look at the Reaper folder.

              What's this "folder mix" of which you speak?

              Humor me for a while until someone fills in the holes in the documentation.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by MikeRivers
                I haven't stumbled across how to create a new track that's a mix of my recorded tracks yet. Is there a button on there somewhere for that? I never played video games, so I'm not very good at poking around until I figure it out.


                Hi Mike,

                I'm guessing what you're wanting would be covered by the Render function. Select File > Render (Ctrl+Alt+R) and you'll be presented with a set of rendering options, including an option to add the rendered mix to the Project as a new track.

                Originally posted by MikeRivers
                What's this "folder mix" of which you speak?

                Humor me for a while until someone fills in the holes in the documentation.


                That someone would be me.

                The Folder tracks are covered in the Audio Routing topic of the REAPER Setup Guide. The documentation, like REAPER itself, is a work in progress. An update was posted tonight, and is available at the following locations:

                The CHM file version (accessible inside REAPER) is available here:

                http://www.documentwrite.com/reaper/chm/REAPER_Setup_Guide.chm

                The PDF version is available here:

                http://www.documentwrite.com/reaper/pdf/REAPER_Setup_Guide.zip

                and there is an online version here:

                http://www.documentwrite.com/reaper/index.html

                but the best place to ask questions and get quick responses is at the REAPER Forum - http://www.cockos.com/forum/

                Hope this helps.

                Cheers,

                Malcolm.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by MalcolmJacobson
                  I'm guessing what you're wanting would be covered by the Render function. Select File > Render (Ctrl+Alt+R) and you'll be presented with a set of rendering options, including an option to add the rendered mix to the Project as a new track.[/qb]
                  Exactly what I was looking for. Now if only I can remember that.

                  There's some new terminology here that I'll have to get used to. If there was some attempt to make this look and work like Vegas, perhaps this is Vegasspeak (Vegan?) - I don't know. I've never used Vegas. In my vocabulary (from the Mackie hard disk recorders) "Render" creates a single file, consolidating a fragmented track made up of punches and edits. The idea of mixing as an adjunct to the process is a somewhat new interpretation of the term. In Audacity, they have a "Quick Mix" menu function which does this.

                  The docs are getting to be a daily feed. Thanks for keeping up, even if I can't.
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                  • #39
                    Render would pretty much be "mixdown" or "make a file of the stereo buss out" kinda deal, though itll also do "stems" or render of selected tracks at the same time

                    There is a consolidate feature for gluing tracks together and making export easy to other apps. You just make a loop selection, select all or some of your tracks, hit consolidate and blammo you got all the files you want starting from one spot so they can be dragged and dropped to anywhere
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Kokopelli Kanak
                      There is a consolidate feature for gluing tracks together and making export easy to other apps.
                      That's what I know as "rendering" but then ProTools uses "consolidate" for that function.

                      I didn't look, but does Reaper make time stamped broadcast wave files? That's always handy when it comes to transferring to a different program that supports the time position in the file header.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by MikeRivers
                        That's what I know as "rendering" but then ProTools uses "consolidate" for that function.



                        Unlike in PT, reaper's consolidate works on ALL selected tracks across selected time , NO MATTER WHAT layer crap is selected, something that bites me in the ass in a big way when transferring from PT

                        BWF are not supported yet I dont think, but its been discussed

                        So much to do so little time

                        If timestamp needs to come up in priority, please come to the forum and make your case, this seems to be the manner in which features are decided
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                        • #42
                          great no nonsense app!! I'm gonna try to mix a huge project on it and see how far it goes plugin-wise.

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                          • #43
                            In about a week's time, Reaper has supplanted Sonar as my go-to audio app. Conditions for my adoption of Reaper were favorable; I'm in a guitar playing, songwriting, band forming phase, not a sequencing, sound designing, MIDI centric phase...

                            Sonar will continue to serve quite nicely as a sequencer

                            What I really want to see from Reaper is support for host tempo-based effects. That's about it. Otherwise, it's all I need, as is.

                            Well, I wouldn't mind if Justing developed a Sound Forge like stereo editor and threw it onto the tools menu, or something (just a minor thing...)

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Magpel
                              What I really want to see from Reaper is support for host tempo-based effects. That's about it. Otherwise, it's all I need, as is.


                              Well you are in luck then

                              "v0.63 - Feb 8 2006
                              + optimized track drawing for large numbers of items
                              + tempo envelope support for VSTs"
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                              • #45
                                Question: in the demo, Guitar 1 & 2 are made up of bits of the file "Guitar.ogg", correct?

                                Just verifying that I'm not crazy...I opened the Guitar 1 file in Audacity, applied an effect to it & saved it back - just to see what would happen - and I noticed that both guitars had the same cheezy effect on them...

                                I can see how this would be good/bad, depending on what you are trying to do - take note, folks! If you hack up one take & then edit it externally, you're going to affect both tracks!

                                As for what happened...the project played back the newly edited file instantly, in place, with no glitches at all.

                                Very cool! I'm liking this app a lot so far!

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