Members myshkin Posted December 24, 2006 Members Share Posted December 24, 2006 Bit of an American version of The Beatles Stones thing that seemed to be a popular dividing line in times of yore. The Doors are a band I used to listen to a lot in smoke filled days a few years back but who I never really listen to now. A chance listen to a Best Of a few days ago left me decidedly unimpressed. Though The End still sounded great allowing for the silly Freudian "Father I want to kill you, mother I want to ....". However The Byrds a band who've grown in my estimation, with particular mention to the awesome Eight Miles High and Notorious Byrd Brothers, one of the great albums by anyone. Especially flawless in the sense of being an album that fits together perfectly from beginning to end. With special mention off the top of this entity I call my head, to Draft Morning and Change is Now. SO in case anyone is in doubt that means i choose The Doors...I mean The Byrds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Z_Zoquis Posted December 24, 2006 Members Share Posted December 24, 2006 The Byrds by about a million miles. The Doors are my choice for most over-rated 60's band. The Byrds are criminally under-appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members E-money Posted December 24, 2006 Members Share Posted December 24, 2006 I vote for the Doors, The Soft Parade, When the Music's Over, great epic length songs, great studio recordings that stand the test of time. Chestnut Mare by the Byrds makes me want to tear my hair out.Give me Dylan's version of Tambourine Man and My Back Pages any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Trick Fall Posted December 24, 2006 Members Share Posted December 24, 2006 Is there a better line in rock than "I woke up this morning and I got myself a beer"? That said why one or the other? I enjoy both. Also while Jim Morrison was probably a major tool he was blessed with one of the greatest rock voices ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Raymar Posted December 24, 2006 Members Share Posted December 24, 2006 The Doors seem to show up on the radio more often than the Byrds these days, however yesterday when I took off in my car a Byrds tune was on - "I'll Feel A Whole Lot Better". Does one have to take sides? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members myshkin Posted December 24, 2006 Author Members Share Posted December 24, 2006 Originally posted by Trick Is there a better line in rock than "I woke up this morning and I got myself a beer"? That said why one or the other? I enjoy both. Also while Jim Morrison was probably a major tool he was blessed with one of the greatest rock voices ever. Well obviously there is no necessity for choosing one over the other, but it does seem to be a fairly interesting comparison for certain reasons...rock/pop etc. Also where would pointless music discussion be without these kind of questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Trick Fall Posted December 24, 2006 Members Share Posted December 24, 2006 Originally posted by myshkin Well obviously there is no necessity for choosing one over the other, but it does seem to be a fairly interesting comparison for certain reasons...rock/pop etc. Also where would pointless music discussion be without these kind of questions Totally agreed and if I had to choose just one, I'd probably have to go with the doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tedster Posted December 24, 2006 Members Share Posted December 24, 2006 Byrds for me. I'm a jangle-holic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members myshkin Posted December 24, 2006 Author Members Share Posted December 24, 2006 Originally posted by Tedster Byrds for me. I'm a jangle-holic. So are you the proud owner of a Rickenbacker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tedster Posted December 24, 2006 Members Share Posted December 24, 2006 1978 360-12 in Fireglo, baybee! Like this, only mine has the old Klusons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jimbroni Posted December 24, 2006 Members Share Posted December 24, 2006 I really can't fathom comparing these two bands. To me they are so remarkably different from one another. Each offering something the other couldn't. Both were necessary, revelant and influencial. Obviously history hasn't treated the Byrds as well as the doors, but that doesn't make em any less influencial or important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tedster Posted December 24, 2006 Members Share Posted December 24, 2006 Yeah, what Jimbroni said. Comparing The Doors to The Byrds is like saying "Which is better, mustard or maple syrup?" Depends on whether you're eating pancakes or a hot dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members where02190 Posted December 24, 2006 Members Share Posted December 24, 2006 Mustard and The Doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tedster Posted December 24, 2006 Members Share Posted December 24, 2006 Spicy brown or yellow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members myshkin Posted December 24, 2006 Author Members Share Posted December 24, 2006 Originally posted by Jimbroni I really can't fathom comparing these two bands. To me they are so remarkably different from one another. Each offering something the other couldn't. Both were necessary, revelant and influencial. Obviously history hasn't treated the Byrds as well as the doors, but that doesn't make em any less influencial or important. Where would pointless music discussion be without these kind of questions? If I were to ask you your favourite albums ever, would you say what's the point in comparing one album to another that is utterly different? And ultimately there probably is little point. But still... I'd probably disagree though on influence. I could pick out The Smiths and The Stone Roses, for example, as influenced by The Byrds, but I'd struggle to pick great bands with much influence by The Doors. As for comparing them on other grounds, what about the attitude to creating works of art. I'd describe The Byrds as much more classical in terms of a succinct , well-crafted work with every note counting, whereas The Doors are more drawn out, and that to me now is less-satisfying. There are similar reasons The Beatles are so great- no padding going on, everything very much to the point. So having said that, it seems to me there probably are good reasons to compare artists to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shniggens Posted December 24, 2006 Members Share Posted December 24, 2006 The Boors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jon Chappell Posted December 24, 2006 Members Share Posted December 24, 2006 I agree with myshkin. The Byrds have stood the test of time better than the Doors, more bands cite them as influences, and more of their DNA can be traced to modern bands. Though the Doors were more experimental at the time, you tend to credit them more for their courageous approach rather than the stuff that came from the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nat whilk II Posted December 24, 2006 Members Share Posted December 24, 2006 I listened to both about equally all those years ago, but now I see the Byrds as basically having a richer, more varied, more meaningful and influential output. Definitely more musically sophisticated and experimental. But for pure soul and heat, the Doors have buckets of more sweat and testosterone. So I don't see them as interchangeable parts. Thinking of the two bands, I can't keep from reflecting on Hendrix and how he pulled off both the brit-influenced, psychedelic/experimental thing WITH oohgahs of sweat and testosterone - and he made it look easy, too. nat whilk ii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted December 24, 2006 Members Share Posted December 24, 2006 The Doors or The Byrds Love. (But I love all three.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members where02190 Posted December 24, 2006 Members Share Posted December 24, 2006 Originally posted by Tedster Spicy brown or yellow? Dijon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Magpel Posted December 24, 2006 Members Share Posted December 24, 2006 Neither were seminal influences for me, but I'd say I generally prefer The Byrds. I've grown more sympathetic to the Doors in my old age (when I was younger, I loathed them; thought they sounded like a toy band; now I think toy bands sound pretty cool). re: SoCal rock, frankly, I was more influenced by the first few James Gang albums...or at least their 2-record greatest hits set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tedster Posted December 24, 2006 Members Share Posted December 24, 2006 Originally posted by where02190 Dijon. African or European? I-I-I don't know AUGHGHGHGGHGHGHGHGGHGHGH!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dahkter Posted December 25, 2006 Members Share Posted December 25, 2006 Doors for me, Had a hippie baby sitter back in seventy eight, brought up on a healthy diet of Doors, Zep and Floyd. I honestly never was immersed in the Byrds, so am certainly biased. This thread makes me want to go back and check them out (someone please give me three or four songs I should check that proves their point) . For me, lifelong Doors memories:- keyboard solo on light my fire, every single note is perfect...- densmore on absolutely live, lots of good stuff, basic, but strong and dynamic- kreiger on LA Woman- the mention of "woke up this morning and I got myself a beer, the future's uncertain and the end is always near" is pretty much a perfect example of Morrison's contribution to rock n roll.... Seems I'm a fan of the Byrds disciples (Stone Roses / Smiths), however I'm definitely unfamiliar with their work, someone please throw me a bone. EZDahkter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roy Brooks Posted December 25, 2006 Members Share Posted December 25, 2006 I like Robbie Kreiger's guitar playing and some of the spaghetti western sounds of certain Doors tunes. That is all I like about the Doors. On the other hand, I really like the Byrds. That's some good stuff right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members roadscholar Posted December 25, 2006 Members Share Posted December 25, 2006 Originally posted by Z_Zoquis The Byrds by about a million miles. The Doors are my choice for most over-rated 60's band. The Byrds are criminally under-appreciated. Couldn't agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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