Members UstadKhanAli Posted April 13, 2007 Members Share Posted April 13, 2007 Has anyone heard about this? Wild story. I actually know Don Bolles, and have played a couple of gigs with him some years back at the PCH Club. I don't know how this soap would test positive for a date-rape drug. It has occasionally tested positive for THC because of the hemp, but a date-rape drug??? Velvet Rope Link Punk Rocker Caught in Soap Opera (LA Times Article) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ from NORA KEYES (this is on the Velvet Rope web site and numerous other forums/web sites): Body: This past Wednesday night Don Bolles suffered a bizarre and unfortunate interception with the Newport Police Department. He was stopped for a broken tail light. We believe his unconventional looks and old army green van made him the victim of police profiling in this very affluent, quiet town. They searched his van. The only thing they found was a bottle of Dr Bronner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lozada Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 ... oh gringos... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted April 13, 2007 Members Share Posted April 13, 2007 Wow. Newport Beach police have a reputation for not liking outsiders and especially not liking outsiders who don't look like they have a lot of dough (and it is a reputation that in my long experience in and around OC is pretty well earned). But that's just wacky. Best of luck to Don. I saw him in a million bands and his one-of--a-kind countenance made a real impression three decades ago. This from the LA Times article is heartening though: Bolles insisted the soap was only soap. "I've been using Dr. Bronner's for 35 years," he said Tuesday, adding that the organic ingredients help give him the complexion of a 15-year-old girl. Executives at Dr. Bronner's rushed to Bolles' defense, hiring attorney Bruce Margolin, who specializes in marijuana cases, to represent the musician. I wish I had the complexion of a 15 year old girl... no, wait. I didn't say that out loud. Glad to see Dr. B's people are stepping up to help out a loyal customer. Again, that's just bizarre. I hope he sues the NBPD. It won't be the first time they'll get a judgement against them for walking over people's rights. [That said, I actually did okay last time I had a run in with them, which was back around '85, the guy treated me pretty decently, all in all. No ticket. No jail. And a chance to show how very well I can recite the alphabet backwards. And, no... I never practiced. That's a bust... you should pardon the expression. But they can tell when a guy flys through it, that he's been in training for just such a perhaps pivotal moment. I always improvised. And I retired undefeated. Then again, I don't think I ever got caught with Dr. Bronner's soap. His corn chips, yes. But, you know, they smell like corn chips. Actually might have saved me once out in Palm Springs.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted April 13, 2007 Author Members Share Posted April 13, 2007 ... oh gringos... Meaning...? BTW, I probably wouldn't have posted this except that I actually have played music with the guy and hung out at KXLU when he guest-DJ'd with one of my friends. We'll find out what's going on with the soap. Hopefully he didn't swap it out for something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lozada Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Meaning...? .. meaning that your "you are innocent until proven guilty" is a joke. Absurd test, results and pathetic acting from the police based on a test on a bottle of soap. What... with it he could poison thousands of "innocent tennagers" and conduct them to the horrible hell of drugs... or even worse, could he destroy the White House while using it as a terrorist weapon? Those officers must be frustrated musicians and found someone to pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ShakaCthulu Posted April 13, 2007 Members Share Posted April 13, 2007 Has anyone heard about this? Wild story. I actually know Don Bolles, and have played a couple of gigs with him some years back at the PCH Club. I don't know how this soap would test positive for a date-rape drug. It has occasionally tested positive for THC because of the hemp, but a date-rape drug??? And the "collateral damage" of the War on Drugs continues to mount. Up to 20 years for a bar of {censored}ing soap. Yeah, rest easy world, we're going to bring our special brand of FREEDOM to a theatre (of war) near you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ShakaCthulu Posted April 13, 2007 Members Share Posted April 13, 2007 There's a movie coming out soon about The Germs I believe.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudolf von Hagenwil Posted April 13, 2007 Members Share Posted April 13, 2007 I didn't know that you can get psychoactive with soap. I hope the manufacturer of the cleansing agent doesn't get in trouble, and has to close the company. I hope he has an U.S. 'Marihuana' production permit." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Producer_of_marihuana.jpg In the U.S.A., hemp cultivation is legally prohibited, but during World War II farmers were encouraged to grow hemp for cordage, to replace manila hemp previously obtained from Japanese-controlled areas. The U.S. government produced a film explaining the uses of hemp called "Hemp for Victory" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted April 13, 2007 Author Members Share Posted April 13, 2007 It's a complete joke unless Mr. Bolles swapped it out for something else. If you've ever seen the Dr. Bronner's Magic Soap bottle, you know that it looks odd. It's stuffed full of Dr. Bronner's writing and rants and looks slightly odd. But still, have they never seen this before? What would make them even single out the soap for field testing? At any rate, I'm surprised at a couple of things right now: 1.) the reason for the arrest, and 2.) that Bolles apparently showers and bathes now Hopefully he didn't do anything wrong and will go free. And yes, there is a film coming out about the Germs, and I believe Don Bolles and the other surviving Germs were in it. Furthermore, if memory serves, the guy who plays Darby Crash in the movie apparently sings in The Germs now (for those who don't know, singer Darby Crash died years ago). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted April 13, 2007 Members Share Posted April 13, 2007 Darby died the day before John Lennon... so he kinda got lost in the shuffle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members indigo_dave Posted April 13, 2007 Members Share Posted April 13, 2007 It just hit me as slightly ironic that a guy from the "Germs" got busted for possession of SOAP. I really hope this ridiculous situation is resolved with no consequences to him.When are our goofy marijuana laws gonna be reformed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spokenward Posted April 13, 2007 Members Share Posted April 13, 2007 I've always heard that dealers cut that Dr. Bronners with Soap. That's just what I heard. I think it was on Adam-12 or sumthin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ggm1960 Posted April 13, 2007 Members Share Posted April 13, 2007 .. meaning that your "you are innocent until proven guilty" is a joke. Absurd test, results and pathetic acting from the police based on a test on a bottle of soap. Yeah the sooner you learn that the better. Anytime you see those cheeries in your rearview mirror you just lost. At best you'll be coughing up cash, at worst you'll cough up cash and spend time in the slammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hard Truth Posted April 14, 2007 Members Share Posted April 14, 2007 (Sorry, can't help myself from gettin a wee bit political. But I have to say this) When the police run roadside tests on a bottle of soap found in a car stopped for a broken tail light, the the drug war has gotten totally out of control. Its time to end this war also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ani Posted April 15, 2007 Members Share Posted April 15, 2007 On what grounds did the police base the car search on? I mean.... really..... do they just automatically go in and search a vehicle for a broken tail light without a justified cause? A positive reading on a breathalizer, driving on expired tags, invalid insurance, or SOMETHING to validify their reasons for going further than just issuing a ticket for a broken tail light???????? I'm glad that the vendor is stepping in to assist.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted April 15, 2007 Author Members Share Posted April 15, 2007 More info: LA City Beat article It was just another average day in the flamboyantly messy life of Don Bolles, once the drummer for the legendarily messy, flamboyant Los Angeles punk band, the Germs. On April 4, Bolles had picked up his girlfriend, the 21-year-old drummer for a band called Civet who goes by the name Cat Scandal, from a Newport Beach rehab, where she had, as he put it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted April 17, 2007 Author Members Share Posted April 17, 2007 Thankfully, he's cleared of this ludicrous charge. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ article More tests show punk rocker's soap is clean of 'date rape' drugThe Associated PressArticle Launched: 04/17/2007 05:12:25 AM PDT NEWPORT BEACH, Calif.- A punk rocker arrested on suspicion of possessing a "date rape drug" will be cleared of all charges after additional testing of his suspect bottle of liquid peppermint soap came up clean. Germs drummer Don Bolles was arrested after Newport Police said they found gamma-hydroxybutyrate, or GHB, inside a bottle of Dr. Bronner's Magic Soap taken from Bolles' vehicle. The drug is often called a "date-rape drug" because it leaves people groggy and powerless. Bolles, whose real name is Jimmy Michael Giorsetti, had been pulled over by police for a broken taillight April 4. Police found the bottle of the soap in a toiletry kit and conducted a field test. On Monday, officials said more sophisticated testing at the Orange County Sheriff's Department crime lab detected no GHB in the soap. All charges against Bolles will be dismissed, a spokeswoman for the Orange County district attorney's office said. The Germs, a punk band formed in Los Angeles in the 1970s, are credited with influencing generations of musicians and popularizing mohawks. Bolles took his stage name from an Arizona Republic journalist who was killed in 1976 by a car bomb while investigating corruption. Bolles did not return calls from the Los Angeles Times seeking comment Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lozada Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 ... now he can sue them back and get rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted April 17, 2007 Members Share Posted April 17, 2007 I'd like to think he'll be able to sue but I wonder... And I don't think -- even if he prevails -- it will change the Newport Beach PD's super-aggressive "xenophobia." They've been doing it -- and getting sued for it -- since I was a kid in the 60's. (First time I ever got cuffed or ended up in the back of a police car was not far from my summer job. I got a ticket -- for taking a sip of wine from a jug that was passed to me -- and released after a fairly long spell. As the judge said, there was a sign "as big as you are" warning against just such an illegal activity. So there they had me fair and square.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jimbroni Posted April 17, 2007 Members Share Posted April 17, 2007 It just hit me as slightly ironic that a guy from the "Germs" got busted for possession of SOAP. Slightly?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members indigo_dave Posted April 18, 2007 Members Share Posted April 18, 2007 The Newport Beach cops should watch this: Soapy the Germ Fighter (1951) http://youtube.com/watch?v=T9lxEOcB78Q&mode=related&search= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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