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Harman Int'l sold for $8 billion


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It's still hard for me to believe that one of the crappiest hi fi companies of the 60s became an audio tech giant.

 

I mean... some of the people they ended up owning... my gosh.

 

 

It's as though Behringer had bought Lavry Engineering, Neve, and... well, you get the drift.

 

It's the triumph of market engineering over technology.

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I want everyone to know that this has nothing to do with the fact that the company makes audio equipment, but merely the fact that the hedge funds/private equity community found a company that they think that has a lot of untapped value hidden inside. Unfortunately this is the reason the entire equities market has been going up and up the last 18 months - when it tanks it is going to make the sub prime mortgage problem look like a side show.

 

History has proven that most LBOs (that is public companies being taken private) are extremely bad ideas with the exception of the $ that the LBO partners, attorneys, and investment bankers make. A lot of LBOs have been so bad that the companies went under within only a few years of going private. Remember Gulf & Western or Two Guys? Bad LBOs brought them down.

 

Since Harman's products suck, they will be in very bad shape if the deal goes sour in the coming years - might be history in 3 to 5 years.

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merely the fact that the hedge funds/private equity community found a company that they think that has a lot of untapped value hidden inside.

 

 

I think that part of the formula also depends on finding industries that are small (like audio), unattractive (like record retailing) or shrinking and dirty (like some manufacturing businesses - heck, even JVC got sold). The next shoe to drop is usually identifying which brands "aren't strategic" - which really means stuff you can sell to finance the deal.

 

The whole thing has more to do with running money than with innovation and making stuff better.

 

thinking about Gulf + Western leads to a little irony - Paramount actually had really good years under G+W. They took advantage of a decentralized industry, they greenlighted a lot of pictures by innovative directors, they got ready for the growth of cable, syndication and video markets. When G+W wound down it left Paramount with 3 businesses - movies, publishing and Sub-prime lending (The Associates). Of course the largest was Sub prime lending.

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I was thinking of buying a Lexicon Omega. I still may If I can do so soon. I am a little wary of the statement specifications can change at any time without notice. I would think it possible to ship a similar looking product with even cheaper and poorer performing components. To me the worst part about some takeovers, is that in the drive to rake in profits, customer service or product quality drops.

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Since Harman's products suck, they will be in very bad shape if the deal goes sour in the coming years - might be history in 3 to 5 years.

 

 

Well, the economic result you predict may be true, but if you think that every product made by JBL, Lexicon and Studer suck, I'd like to know what you think of as "good". Must be some impressive {censored}.

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So what's the big deal? Sidney Harman made a good deal and now has $400 million more cash than he had last week. He'll remain chief of the company.

 

He realizes that he's getting old (80+), and quips that he'll probably retire in the next 25 years. The company isn't looking for a new leader, though he's starting to think about finding a successor. Whether you like the company and products or not, I suspect that from the outside little will change. Mr. Harman is a smart businessman and it doesn't really matter whose money is backing the company. I'll bet the investors like what he's doing.

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Well, the economic result you predict may be true, but if you think that every product made by JBL, Lexicon and Studer suck, I'd like to know what you think of as "good". Must be some impressive {censored}.

 

 

I certainly don't think that those brands (of their pro audio line) suck, but their main sales lines - the consumer aimed ones like JBL and HK sell are more or less junk these days. Exception being the absolute top of the line models, which cost too much for what you get.

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