Members elsongs Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 http://www.cracked.com/index.php?name=News&sid=2370 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dean Roddey Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 That was actually a good article. Those are rare, so it's nice to read one once in a while. Oh well, I've got to get back to my low commitment on-line relationships... The scary thing is, I'm that guy he's talking about, completely. I have completely removed other people from my physical life, altogether, and have purely online interactions with other people. It's screwed up and pathetic, but I seem to naturally gravitate toward it, being somewhat of a lone wolf. It's not like people like me only came into existence in the last couple decades, since there was always the guy who lived alone in the cabin on the mountain. But it's just that there are way more of them now, and they are often a lot better armed. This whole subject has been weighing heavily on me of late. I'm going to die of social irrelevance or something, I'm sure. They'll find me at the computer, dead from just lack of human interaction. I'll have ceased to have a any real reason to exist and will just stop existing. It's time to do something about it before it gets any worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members n4vgm Posted September 17, 2007 Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 So, are you above or below bumping your cart into an attractive babe at the grocery store? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dean Roddey Posted September 17, 2007 Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 I'm neither above nor below it, but I don't think it would do much good. I'm not at all physically appealing and, inconsistently, am heavily hard-wired so that I really only have any physical interest in stunningly beautiful women. That's not a good combination unless you are a rock star or coke dealer. Not very much chance otherwise of stretching the two ends of those ropes far enough to tie them together :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members elsongs Posted September 17, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 If sort of fit that description too, but I realized most of m quality relationships with people are those that are forged the old-fashioned way. I use technology to supplement my real-life relationships with people, not supplant them. That being said, I've noticed this year that most of my real-life friends and acquaintances "don't have time for me" in the real-world sense, that even includes members of my band! I've also met a friend via Craigslist (long story), who I have a lot in common - same tastes in music - with and we have some real good social chats. I've only hung out with him maybe 3 or 4 times, I've tried to hang out more, but he always says he's too busy with things. What's funny, he constantly complains that people here are too shallow and the quality of social interaction isn't as good, he wants to move to the SF Bay Area sometime...though he's probably not aware that he's exactly the kind of person he despises (And in reality, most of the people who makes such complaints are guilty of that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lee Flier Posted September 17, 2007 Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 I'm not at all physically appealing and, inconsistently, am heavily hard-wired so that I really only have any physical interest in stunningly beautiful women. That's not really hardwired - people literally program themselves to be attracted to what they're attracted to. To a guy who lives in a place where the women all wear veils, his wife is the most beautiful woman in the world no matter who she is. That's an extreme but there are lots of points in between. In modern society we're exposed to impossible ideals on a daily basis, so we become programmed to expect that, to our own detriment (maybe this should've been in the posted article, which was very thought provoking). Stop watching porn , stop looking at models and girlie mags,stop watching TV for awhile. Start looking at women you see in real life, not just the stunners but all of them, with the idea of finding something about each of them that's attractive. If you're paying attention you can find something, maybe even a lot of things you wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't made the conscious effort. You can program yourself out of your expectations just like you programmed yourself into them - and then you'll be free, free to choose someone who's a good partner rather than choosing on looks, and free to explore possibilities that are real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dean Roddey Posted September 17, 2007 Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 TV definitely isn't the problem for me. I haven't watched any at all for years. In a way though, because TV is so ubiquitous today, that is in and of itself a kind of social handicap because you don't share any of those experiences with other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jabney Posted September 17, 2007 Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 That was actually a good article. Those are rare, so it's nice to read one once in a while. Oh well, I've got to get back to my low commitment on-line relationships...The scary thing is, I'm that guy he's talking about, completely. I have completely removed other people from my physical life, altogether, and have purely online interactions with other people. It's screwed up and pathetic, but I seem to naturally gravitate toward it, being somewhat of a lone wolf. It's not like people like me only came into existence in the last couple decades, since there was always the guy who lived alone in the cabin on the mountain. But it's just that there are way more of them now, and they are often a lot better armed.This whole subject has been weighing heavily on me of late. I'm going to die of social irrelevance or something, I'm sure. They'll find me at the computer, dead from just lack of human interaction. I'll have ceased to have a any real reason to exist and will just stop existing. It's time to do something about it before it gets any worse. hi Dean, Just curious, have you visited http://www.rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.php and taken the test? Maybe your behavior is not as screwed-up and pathetic as you might think. best, john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spin Cycle Posted September 17, 2007 Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 If you are on this forum, the chances are quite favorable that you fit the description in the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lee Flier Posted September 17, 2007 Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 TV definitely isn't the problem for me. I haven't watched any at all for years. In a way though, because TV is so ubiquitous today, that is in and of itself a kind of social handicap because you don't share any of those experiences with other people. Yeah I agree. I hardly watch any TV myself, so when people start chatting about a TV show I'm always in the dark. I still have a lot of real life friends though, and we share a lot of interests including music and other "outside the box" stuff. Joining a band, taking a class in something that interests you, or doing volunteer work for a cause you support are good ways to meet people with whom you have something in common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted September 17, 2007 Members Share Posted September 17, 2007 Not sure where I place it in the top seven but surely one of them is Autotune and another is competitive loudness. And then there's the new embrace of endless war... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dean Roddey Posted September 18, 2007 Members Share Posted September 18, 2007 I still have a lot of real life friends though, and we share a lot of interests including music and other "outside the box" stuff. Joining a band, taking a class in something that interests you, or doing volunteer work for a cause you support are good ways to meet people with whom you have something in common. Actually, yesterday, after reading that article, I sent an e-mail to the local high school, offering to come talk to their AP computer science class. I did it a couple times back in the late 90s (man, it feels wierd talking about the 'late 90's', I was in my freaking 30's then), but haven't done it for a while. I also told them that, if there was sufficient interest with some motivated students, I'd do a weekly or biweekly after hours mentoring thing. I just went for an eye exam (my first in 5 years, because I have no health insurance.) The whole thing was a perfect example of my problems. I was nervous being around all those people in the office. I was sweating and was just in sensory overload mode with all of the conversations going on around me. The woman who was helping me kept thinking I was impatient because I was looking aound all the time and fidgeting. But it was just more 'people stuff' than I feel comfortable with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dean Roddey Posted September 18, 2007 Members Share Posted September 18, 2007 Just curious, have you visited http://www.rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.php and taken the test? Maybe your behavior is not as screwed-up and pathetic as you might think. It pretty much told me what I already knew, that I'm vaguely autistic. Above average in talent/perception and below average in social skills, and average everywhere else. Looking back now from adult life, I can see that I had a slight obessive/compulsive and anxiety thing way back in my early teens and all of the same symptoms that I have now. I just didn't question those things back then so they didn't really bother me. It's not nearly enough to be disabling, and someone less obessively introspective probably wouldn't even much notice. This quote basically sums me up: The deficits associated with AS may be debilitating, but many individuals are able to excel, especially in areas that are less dependent on social interaction, including mathematics, music, and computer sciences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RadiationNation Posted September 18, 2007 Members Share Posted September 18, 2007 The great thing is that this is definitely something that will only become more and more of a problem. It's my own belief that self-isolation is a natural human tendency and eventually something we all strive for. If you think about the ideal American life, it's all exclusivity. Private homes, private clubs, private everything. What we want and nothing else. It'll be interesting to see what a mess the world turns into in 50 years when everyone is in their own little worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members echoshock Posted September 18, 2007 Members Share Posted September 18, 2007 The great thing is that this is definitely something that will only become more and more of a problem. It's my own belief that self-isolation is a natural human tendency and eventually something we all strive for. If you think about the ideal American life, it's all exclusivity. Private homes, private clubs, private everything. What we want and nothing else. It'll be interesting to see what a mess the world turns into in 50 years when everyone is in their own little worlds. umm I think we're just about there now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dean Roddey Posted September 18, 2007 Members Share Posted September 18, 2007 I don't think we have to worry quite so much. Most of the things that were discussed in that article DO NOT apply to anyone raising a family, or anyone before they move out of their parent's house. They have to deal with all of the issues of living in close quarters with other humans and dealing with criticism and all of that, at least for that period of time, which is not an insubstantial period. If we get to the point where the majority of us never have to deal with those issues, then we'll be in much worse trouble since no one will be procreating. Which may be the point at which us horny, desparate lonely computer science males come to rescue! Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators MrKnobs Posted September 18, 2007 Moderators Share Posted September 18, 2007 http://www.cracked.com/index.php?name=News&sid=2370 An excellent article. *logs back on to Second Life hoping to make up with girlfriend there* Terry D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alphajerk Posted September 18, 2007 Members Share Posted September 18, 2007 i have no idea what that test means... its too vague on the results. maybe that just means im retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ShakaCthulu Posted September 18, 2007 Members Share Posted September 18, 2007 Is that the same Cracked that used to put out the Mad Magazine type funny books? I loved those as a kid. Still got tons of them, and Mad too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jabney Posted September 19, 2007 Members Share Posted September 19, 2007 i have no idea what that test means... its too vague on the results. maybe that just means im retarded. Depends on your Aspie vs Neurotypical score. If you had spent your entire life thinking you were a loser because of Asperger traits, imagine discovering that there are other people in the same boat. And that maybe it wasn't your imagination that cheap fluorescent lights, or excess perfume, or approaching rainstorms caused you to have severe headaches. Autism is a broad spectrum - it isn't just 'Rainman.' If you include the Aspergers folks, then make room for people such as Albert Einstein and Gary Numan too. best, john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tradivoro1 Posted September 20, 2007 Members Share Posted September 20, 2007 You know, they left out people chain talking on the cell phone on the subway or bus cause they can't spend 2 seconds being by themselves with their thoughts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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