Members scud133 Posted November 1, 2007 Members Share Posted November 1, 2007 Looks good... looks good... and then... SLAMMED!! Long Road Out of Eden (title track): At least it doesn't clip, they managed to keep the levels all below 0db on this one... But then check out this one, called Center of the Universe: Is that a hint of dynamic range I see on a CD released in 2007?? Anyway, haven't had a chance to listen to the whole album yet but most of the tracks seem pretty mellow so far -- not much rockin : ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members strathound Posted November 1, 2007 Members Share Posted November 1, 2007 They were talking about the album today on The Ticket in Dallas. General concensus was thumbs down. Played a bunch of tracks off the album. I was underwhelmed as well. Seemed like they were going after a different audience, just don't know who or what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DJDM Posted November 1, 2007 Members Share Posted November 1, 2007 The Dude: Jesus, man, could you change the channel?Cab Driver: F*** you man. If you don't like my f***in' music get your own f***in' cab!The Dude: I had a rough...Cab Driver: I pull over and kick your ass out!The Dude: Come on, man. I had a rough night and I hate the f***in' Eagles, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted November 1, 2007 Members Share Posted November 1, 2007 The second screen shot does give a ray of hope, though. Maybe not specifically about the Eagles, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members monstermaker Posted November 1, 2007 Members Share Posted November 1, 2007 General concensus was thumbs down. A couple beers in Joe might have helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Billster Posted November 1, 2007 Members Share Posted November 1, 2007 What about "Available exclusively at Wal-Mart"? This from Don Henley, working with the corporate satan. But apparently part of the deal is that Wal-Mart made some concession towards the Eagles' social interests in order to secure the deal. And Henley said that working Wal-Mart is not really different than working with a major international media company like Universal or whoever. And also, working from the inside, making mutually beneficial deals can be more efficient than standing outside picketing and throwing stones at the monolith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members seahorse Posted November 1, 2007 Members Share Posted November 1, 2007 At least it doesn't clip, they managed to keep the levels all below 0db on this one... Is that a hint of dynamic range I see on a CD released in 2007?? : ( I don't think I want to sit around and listen to music with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeff da Weasel Posted November 1, 2007 Members Share Posted November 1, 2007 Well, I've seen how it looks. How's it sound? I'm getting really tired of looking at audio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted November 2, 2007 Members Share Posted November 2, 2007 Is there any way to put that waveform into your DAW and find out how it sounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeff da Weasel Posted November 2, 2007 Members Share Posted November 2, 2007 Is there any way to put that waveform into your DAW and find out how it sounds? Hum a few bars for me, will ya Ken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scud133 Posted November 3, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 3, 2007 Well, I've seen how it looks. How's it sound?I'm getting really tired of looking at audio. Some of the songs are pretty punchy, where my ears get tired after 3-4 mins, and some aren't painful but definitely loud... But to be honest I listened to it through once and haven't had any desire to play it again... I would say buy the single if you're interested but pass on the rest; it's really depressing for the most part. Only keepers are "i love to watch a woman dance" "i dreamed there was no war" (a cool instrumental) and "how long" (the single) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted November 3, 2007 Members Share Posted November 3, 2007 But to be honest I listened to it through once and haven't had any desire to play it again... Funny, I went to Wal-Mart once, and didn't have any desire to go there again...coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tradivoro1 Posted November 5, 2007 Members Share Posted November 5, 2007 Well, I've seen how it looks. How's it sound?I'm getting really tired of looking at audio. Me too... I'm just wondering why people continue to talk about compression levels and slamming, and for some reason, they didn't hear the songs... I mean, isn't that what it's all about, listening ot the songs and the music performances.... Or am I missing something??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ani Posted November 5, 2007 Members Share Posted November 5, 2007 Funny, I went to Wal-Mart once, and didn't have any desire to go there again...coincidence? :D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nighthawkdude Posted November 5, 2007 Members Share Posted November 5, 2007 All right, it ain't "The Long Run", but it's okay. Level's a bit whack, but the overall mix isn't bad. Played it in the car on the way to work this morning and it didn't make me hurl. Your basic, vanilla Eagles album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted November 5, 2007 Members Share Posted November 5, 2007 Me too... I'm just wondering why people continue to talk about compression levels and slamming, and for some reason, they didn't hear the songs... I mean, isn't that what it's all about, listening ot the songs and the music performances.... Or am I missing something??? Well, what happens is that when the sound is as squashed as it is on today's records, it's simply not enjoyable to listen to in the long run. I bought Amy Winehouse's delightful song, "Rehab," from Amazon, and while Amazon did their part (256 kbps non-DRM Mp3) the song is so overcompressed that it's painful to listen to -- and so loud I can't really put it in a playlist with my normal music. I also like a lot of the new Radiohead album I bought. But, by and large, I don't find myself listening to it because it's so fatiguing. After the first few days, now, it's rare when I put it on and get all the way through. I've done a little better with the Robert Plant/Alison Krauss album. It's still too loud to mix in with other music (I keep trying to segue Gene Clark's version of Polly with the cover -- but I have to be right there to turn the level of the Raising Sand version down by nearly half to keep levels consistent.) So, you know, if they had a color coding on product to show its average RMS level that would allow me to avoid WASTING MY MONEY on music I'm not going to be able to listen to and enjoy in the long run... Failing that I'm glad folks are talking about the squash levels out front -- maybe they can keep others from wasting their money on music they WOULD like -- if it hadn't been all but destroyed by tin-eared "mastering" "engineers" working at the behest of idiot labels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ryan7585 Posted November 5, 2007 Members Share Posted November 5, 2007 seemed kinda bland, yet refreshing. i give it an overall thumbs-sideways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeff da Weasel Posted November 5, 2007 Members Share Posted November 5, 2007 Well, what happens is that when the sound is as squashed as it is on today's records, it's simply not enjoyable to listen to in the long run. I certainly agree. I just wish there was some way of expressing it other than showing me results from a spectrum analyzer. Not blaming the guy who did, but something just rubs me the wrong way about expressing one's sonic dissatisfaction with a visual representation. I mean, I can make any waveform look like anything. I'm not surprised the new Eagles record looks like this. I still don't know how it sounds, but I can't say I'm interested enough in Eagles music in 2007 to actually go listen to it regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scud133 Posted November 7, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 7, 2007 Eagles debut at #1 :eek: Billboard.com Link Knock **Britney Spears** out of the top spot... They sold damn near 1 million records in the first week... and more than twice as many sales as she did... wtf?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HCarlH Posted November 7, 2007 Members Share Posted November 7, 2007 "Other big debuts this week include Puscifer's V Is for Vagina" With albums like this, it's no wonder The Eagles topped the chart. I've heard the album (Eagles)...it sounds right out of 1975 with killer harmony vocals. Good for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kurdy Posted November 7, 2007 Members Share Posted November 7, 2007 I posted this in another forum, but I think it's relevant to this thread too: One guy I know bought the CD, and he hated it. He was seriously bummed out about it, because the Eagles are one of his all-time favorite bands, and he couldn't get over how much the new one sucked. He said he listened to it over and over again, trying to find something to like about it, but couldn't find anything. Then he realized what the problem was. The CD is simply too long. It contains about 18 or 20 tracks, (not sure which number), and out of those, 10 or 11 are really solid. The rest, he says, are cheesy, schmaltzy crap. (I've never heard the CD, myself, with the exception of one song, and never got the chance to ask him which was which.) So he burned his own version of the CD, cutting out the offending tracks and keeping the good ones, and now he loves the CD. He made the point that this is the problem with a lot of modern CDs--they simply contain too many songs, and it's hard for an album to retain its consistency over the span of 18 to 20 tracks. Nowadays, the public expects CDs to contain a lot of music, yet quantity doesn't necessarily equal quality. Just 4 or 5 bad songs can really drag down the quality of the the album as a whole. The classic albums of yesteryear typically only had 9 or 10 tracks. Probably one of the reasons why there are few really great albums anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Sayers Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 Songs in the Key of life had 21 tracks. I know for sure that they were selected from 100+ fully mixed and completed tracks. It took a year to record. Our local reviewer gave Long Road 1 out of 10. He hated it yet insists he's an Eagles fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fendercaster Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 I've heard the album (Eagles)...it sounds right out of 1975 with killer harmony vocals. Good for them. In the case of the first single from the album, "How Long", at least, there's a good reason for this. This was written by J.D. Souther and originally done by the Eagles back in the '70's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kurdy Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 Songs in the Key of life had 21 tracks. I know for sure that they were selected from 100+ fully mixed and completed tracks. It took a year to record.Our local reviewer gave Long Road 1 out of 10. He hated it yet insists he's an Eagles fan. Well, a lot of times the catalyst for a double album had been that the band or artist had more good material than could fit on just one record. However, most albums, especially in the days of vinyl, were still 9 to 10 songs. Sgt Pepper had 12, and that was a lot for back then. Even Thriller had only 9. But nowadays, a lot of artists are putting out CDs with 15 or 20 tracks on it, not because the material is all good, but because that's become the expectation. Not to mention bonus tracks, alternate versions, extras, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Sayers Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 Kurdy - I agree with you - I was just pointing out that to have 21 songs they've got to be good, choosing from 100+ helps. I personally reckon 10 is about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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