Members Cry Logic Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 Check this out.The new version of Melodyne will be able to edit individual notes within an audio recording.Simply amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EnemyofSilence Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 yeah, I got the email announcement about it this afternoon. I posted in the forum above hoping Craig would check it out while he's there. If they've really pulled this off, it's truly amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bp Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 The demo is from an independent track (a gtr). I wonder if it could work like this when the guitar is part of a full mix file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members temnov Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 Even with independent track it is great. I'm using Melodyne 3 pretty often, but this ability to edit chords and polyphonic material is just insane!!! Sci-fi in the real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Geoff Grace Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 AT LAST I can realize my dream of transforming contrapuntal lines within Glen Gould's recordings of Johann Sebastian Bach's Partitas into melody lines from The Sound of Music! Okay -- if it really works -- it'll be quite an impressive accomplishment. Best, Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ultravibe Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 AT LAST I can realize my dream of transforming contrapuntal lines within Glen Gould's recordings of Johann Sebastian Bach's Partitas into melody lines from The Sound of Music! Bizarre - just yesterday I was joking on a mailing list that my piano was so out of tune that you could throw sliced baloney inside and it would probably improve... A friend replied with:"I have been channeling Glenn Gould, the eccentricCanadian pianist, and he would like to record the Bach2 and 3-part Inventions and Sinfonias on your pianowith the baloney in there." 2 Glenn Gould references inside of a day or so! Weirder still, I replied to his message with a link to the Melodyne video! This thread is like weird full circle coincidence of weirdness or something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EnemyofSilence Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 I emailed the announcement to a guitarist friend of mine, and his reply was... "now it's possible for me to edit mistakes into my solos!!!" hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Xance Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 Man that is awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 AT LAST I can realize my dream of transforming contrapuntal lines within Glen Gould's recordings of Johann Sebastian Bach's Partitas into melody lines from The Sound of Music! Okay -- if it really works -- it'll be quite an impressive accomplishment. Best, Geoff I think Geoff and I may be on pages not too far off, here. On the one hand, to the extent they accomplish their goals (and I haven't seen the video but we all know video doesn't lie... oh wait) it's a pretty amazing technical feat. But so was on-the-fly pitch correction. And look what that's done for the state of pop music production today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Geoff Grace Posted March 13, 2008 Members Share Posted March 13, 2008 Yeah, technical achievement and musical achievement are two separate issues. If tools are used musically, it can be magical; but often, they're overused or used incorrectly, and the result undermines the song. In this case, I doubt this new feature's use will be as prominent as a mechanically tuned lead vocal or an over-compressed mix, so I doubt its misuse will as greatly weaken a track; but time will tell. Best, Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tradivoro1 Posted March 13, 2008 Members Share Posted March 13, 2008 I see this as an educational tool as well.. Imagine all these solo open tuning guitar tunes that you may want to figure out.. By ear, it can very difficult, whereas with this, you can come up with a midi file that then you can convert to notation and actually learn to play notes, not what you thinnk you hear... The same goes for solo piano pieces that there is no score for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lancaster Posted March 13, 2008 Members Share Posted March 13, 2008 ...(and I haven't seen the video but we all know video doesn't lie... oh wait) it's a pretty amazing technical feat. You really should watch the video. It has it's "Holy @#$!" moments. This is the year's big breakthrough in DSP. It's impact will reverberate forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spokenward Posted March 13, 2008 Members Share Posted March 13, 2008 You don't always know how a new technology will be applied. My first thought was that people who rely on loops would use this to freshen and revoice their loops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators MarkGifford-1 Posted March 13, 2008 Moderators Share Posted March 13, 2008 This is the year's big breakthrough in DSP. It's impact will reverberate forever. Fire. The wheel. The concept of "zero." These reverberate forever. A new version of autotune that will enable even {censored}tier players to make records, not so much. MG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cry Logic Posted March 14, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 14, 2008 "...My first thought was that people who rely on loops would use this to freshen and revoice their loops..." That was my 1st thought as well.For people who use loops this willrevolutionise the way they work. Now we'll be able to adjust loops to fit the tune exactly without the usual compromise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Magpel Posted March 14, 2008 Members Share Posted March 14, 2008 I'm no luddite, but this make me a little nauseous--MORE added to the already enormous burden of editing and other a-temporal operations we perform on our recordings. I mean, yeah, the implications are huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EnemyofSilence Posted March 14, 2008 Members Share Posted March 14, 2008 From watching the video, it's clear their only remaining challenge will be to take a spoken-word audio track and have it translate between German and English while remaining in sync. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 You don't always know how a new technology will be applied. My first thought was that people who rely on loops would use this to freshen and revoice their loops. My first thought was that, if it really does work, then it should be used for good, not for evil - for example, to finally put the debates over the opening chord of the Beatles "A Hard Day's Night" to rest once and for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted March 14, 2008 Members Share Posted March 14, 2008 Guys, check out the Frankfurt videos I'm posting from the show. I saw it in action, in real-time, it's impressive as hell. I'll get into the ramifications later, but I'm getting a pretty good understanding of what it can and cannot do (much of the former, not much of the latter but there are some limitations). For example, if you have unison strings of a 12-string that are out of tune, you probably can't fix that. But if the octave strings are out of tune, you probably can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members elsongs Posted March 14, 2008 Members Share Posted March 14, 2008 From watching the video, it's clear their only remaining challenge will be to take a spoken-word audio track and have it translate between German and English while remaining in sync. Still, even all that wonderful technology can't make the narrator pronounce the word "MIDI" properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kurdy Posted March 14, 2008 Members Share Posted March 14, 2008 Still, even all that wonderful technology can't make the narrator pronounce the word "MIDI" properly So what? That doesn't change the fact that this looks and feels exactly as easy as what I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Geoff Grace Posted March 14, 2008 Members Share Posted March 14, 2008 Okay, I'm confused -- Is this software for vegetarians or for meat eaters? Or both? Best, Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members elsongs Posted March 14, 2008 Members Share Posted March 14, 2008 So what? That doesn't change the fact that this looks and feels exactly as easy as what I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ShakaCthulu Posted March 14, 2008 Members Share Posted March 14, 2008 Will DNA only be in the Studio version or in the other versions as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members seclusion Posted March 14, 2008 Members Share Posted March 14, 2008 I wonder if it would fix a distorted guitar track with a guitar that has bad intonation, dirty strings or just an out of tune track. How many of us nailed that take and other then the above, it's perfect? As I use melodyne now for just vox, this would make a perfectly tuned mix. Hmmm what about how some sessions the guitar or keys player just has to record that track full of delay and reverb, wonder if it'll tune that as well? So some day we'll be able to put this plug on the master buss and re-tune everything at the same time so the song is perfectly in pitch! Ya I'll update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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