Have you seen the new Kennedy assassination video?

[techristian]

Have you seen the new Kennedy assassination video? The publisher of the video makes the shocking claim that Kennedy was assassinated by his Chauffeur. It is very graphic. It is supposed to be covered up CIA footage.

 

Dan

 

BTW.... A link to this came up within 5 minutes on Google. You are well connected Harmony Central!

[boosh]

That footage was studied in the 70ties already. It's supposed to show the gun but experts already debunked that 20 years ago.

[blue2blue]

I don't know for certain who killed Kennedy, if he acted alone, whatever. I do know that elements within the US government in that era had no apparent moral or ethical problem whatsoever in attempting to kill foreign leaders or other 'inconvenient' international figures. I also know that the path of the so-called 'magic bullet' and the nearly as improbable circumstances of its discovery in the folds of the blanket on the stretcher used to transport wounded Texas governor John Connally to the hospital stretch my credulity past the breaking point -- and that Connally himself disputed the single bullet/Oswald theory of the crime until he died.

 

But I also know that there's a highly disreputable and far-from-truth-respecting industry that has grown up around the JFK assasination.

 

And I know from poking around through many of the videos and such that are often cited in threads such as these as 'evidence' of this or that that most of those cottage industry conspiracy theory mongers or themselves often almost completely bereft of common sense, respect for real research, or even a modicum of credibility.

 

Evidence of my contention about the conspiracy theorists?

 

Just look at how many of the conspiracy videos, blogs, and articles can't even get the spelling of Connally's name right. Seriously, just Google it and you have cross section x-ray of credulous fools, untrustworthy conspiracy mongerers, delusional wack jobs, and sleazy opportunists.

[the stranger]

I can't help but doubt "the experts". What I do know after watching the Zapruder film over and over is that what people were saying was the gun was a reflection of the front passengers hair. But, I still think it looks like the driver surveyed the scene and then turned toward JFK right before the bullet hit.

 

It does look like the driver was one of the shooters. Who knows? Probably God and a select few and they're not talking.

[New Trail]

The thing about ANY of the popular conspiracy theories is that evidence has been destroyed, tampered with, misplaced, lost, etc. etc. and that anything discussed now is merely speculative. And that includes 911.

[Mark L]

So where's the link to the footage?

[TimOBrien]

If you think you'll EVER know anything final about the Kennedy assassination, forgetaboutit.

 

Back in 1990 for the 125th anniversary of the Lincoln assassination, they made a big deal about opening up the vault and finally displaying the artifacts the National Archives had been holding. The vault had been sealed to keep anyone from being named that wasn't already long dead.

 

The day came and they slammed it right back shut again saying something like, "Oh there's really nothing to see here. Move along, Citizen...." They said that now they won't open up the vault again for another 200 years.

 

Good luck on that Kennedy thing then...

[ggm1960]

People aren't aware that Kennedy was assassinated by Oswald and Lincoln was assassinated by Booth?

[Beck]

I think the gee wiz effect still works with most because they don

[Anderton]

Here's the problem I have with conspiracy theories. A lot of them were floating around in the 60s and like most people, I thought "No way."

 

Then a couple decades, we find out quite a few of them were true after all (Gulf of Tonkin, unauthorized wiretaps of Martin Luther King, J. Edgar Hoover being a possible blackmail target because he was gay, agent provacateurs placed in the Black Panthers, etc.). Now I don't know what to believe.

 

What I do know for sure is that there are things with the Kennedy assassination that don't add up. Come to think of it, there are some question marks around 911, too.

[the stranger]

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[the stranger]

Texas is the reason.

[rasputin1963]

 

Texas is the reason.

 

 

 

Haha. As a Texan born in 1963, I have always felt curiously close to this incident... even karmically linked to it in a way.

 

My Mom graduated from nursing school in Austin, TX, on Nov. 22nd, 1963. Her diploma, now hanging on her bedroom wall, bears this fateful date.

 

Not a week of my adult life goes by that I do not stop and think about this incident. I've read several very thorough books on JFK's life.

 

I'm pretty sure the Zapruder film is not the only record of this moment. Quite a number of citizens were approached shortly after the shooting, and their film was demanded. A number of people say they were warned not to speak of the episode by "men in black".

 

Do you remember, about one year ago, when that little film emerged of Marilyn Monroe giving a B.J. to a middle-aged man? Many postulated that the recipient of the B.J. was JFK. Now, assuming this video existed back in the day (which it DID)... can you imagine the impact it would have had on the American populace had it been released to public scrutiny? Nowadays we think nothing of homemade porn shorts made by celebrities, but America in 1963 was a very, very, very different place.

 

In the days after the Bay of Pigs fiasco, JFK started taking lots and lots of prescription painkillers, oral and injected, 'round the clock. He fell asleep at public dinners and at crucial political roundtable/cabinet discussions. At public press-ops the man could hardly move, he was in such pain.

 

I think JFK was killed on order from some American authority. His sex escapades and severe drug addictions had decimated him as a man and as a President. Those intimate to him know that he had used cocaine, marijuana and LSD... in the White House itself. Higher-ups, I believe, deemed him no longer able to even perform a "charade" or "facade" of being a leader. He had to be neutralized.

 

JFK was sharing sex with a Mafia kingpin's moll, Judith Campbell Exner. It is COMPLETELY possible that the Mob managed to get ahold of some explicit sex tapes (video or audio) and were threatening to release them worldwide.... The fallout from that would be ghastly and inconceivable; in fact, it would severely degrade America's reputation globally.... In the middle of the Cold War, and just a scant 17 years after WWII? No, America could not afford such a ghastly stain on its reputation as the new "leaders of the Free world". No, JFK had to be neutralized... on recommendation of American higher-ups (not Russia, not Cuba).

 

Just as Oswald himself claimed: he was a patsy. He may have fired one of the rounds, but there were certainly other gunmen. He was a gung-ho, slick-dick Marine that American intel used to take the fall for the killing. A "lone nut"... Sure, the public will swallow that if TV tells them so. Marines agree to die for their country; sometimes they actually have to do it.

 

What exactly had Dorothy Kilgallen written in her journals... that caused her to be neutralized so sloppily?

[techristian]

 

So where's the link to the footage?

 

 

I couldn't find a link. It was an attachment in my email. You can see it perhaps one of 2 ways. I could upload it to my server and give a link to those that PM me, but WARNING THIS IS VERY GRAPHIC. Or I could forward the email to whoever is interested but WARNING THIS IS VERY GRAPHIC.

 

Dan

 

[Mark L]

I couldn't find a link. It was an attachment in my email. You can see it perhaps one of 2 ways. I could upload it to my server and give a link to those that PM me, but WARNING THIS IS VERY GRAPHIC . Or I could forward the email to whoever is interested but WARNING THIS IS VERY GRAPHIC. Dan

 

Actually, since I posted that I've found it on Youtube

 

And yes, it is very graphic

 

But thanks anyway

[Lukenskywalker]

 

My theory is that my father killed JFK for messing with Marilynn Monroe, because well... we Beck

[Gus Lozada]

Video is not new.

And here's a more responsible analysis:

 

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[bp]

Dan, is this the video from the other side of the car than the Zapruder film? I saw that close to twenty years ago but not since.

[techristian]

 

Dan, is this the video from the other side of the car than the Zapruder film? I saw that close to twenty years ago but not since.

 

 

To answer you question, here is a link. I uploaded the video to my website , but WARNING THIS IS VERY GRAPHIC.

 

http://musicinit.com/jfk.wmv

[Coaster]

 

People aren't aware that Kennedy was assassinated by Oswald and Lincoln was assassinated by Booth?

 

 

oh, sure. and wtc was brought down by a bunch of guys with towels. and global warming is real. and and..i cant think of anymore cover story lies, sorry.

[Beck]

My father admits he shot the Sheriff but swears he didn't shoot the Deputy. He went on to explain that Sheriff John Brown always hated him....for what, he didn't know.

 

My dad shot the deputy. I've never told anyone. From what I've heard Sheriff John Brown had a man crush on your father but knew he couldn't have him, so he thought if he couldn't have him nobody would and tried to kill him. Good thing your father was quicker on the draw, eh?

[rasputin1963]

Interesting, Dan. I personally am not seeing the driver do it, as is being claimed.

 

But what is obvious, however, is that the big explosive second shot is coming from FRONT RIGHT of the car, and not REAR RIGHT ELEVATED, where Oswald was in the Book Depository.

 

It still very much seems (to me) that that explosive shot was fired from the Grassy Knoll area... It also looks like a shot inflicted by a much more powerful rifle than a Mannlicher Carcano (Oswald's weapon).

 

The first shot, though, in which JFK grabs his throat so alarmingly may well have come from the Book Depository.

 

 

Several stories exist as to why Jackie turns to the back trunk region of the car:

 

 

She was trying to help the Security man climb aboard the car,

 

She was trying to retrieve a piece of JFK's "skull-flap" that had flown out the back, or

 

She was trying to get the f*** out of the car herself, lest she be shot next...

[Beck]

But what is obvious, however, is that the big explosive second shot is coming from FRONT RIGHT of the car, and not REAR RIGHT ELEVATED, where Oswald was in the Book Depository.

 

No, this is actually one of the biggest and most persistent myths... urban legend status at this point. And the JFK movie (fiction) with Kevin Costner has only made it all but irrefutable in the public mind... unfortunately.

 

But as I mentioned earlier these perceptions come from a lack of knowledge in the general public of ballistics and how the body reacts to trauma. This is the best example of what I'm talking about.

 

Some of the best briefs I've ever seen are from the National Rifle Association, but people tend to ignore the experts because it's more fun to believe in the conspiracies and the experts ruin all the fun.

[New Trail]

No, this is actually one of the biggest and most persistent myths... urban legend status at this point. And the JFK movie (fiction) with Kevin Costner has only made it all but irrefutable in the public mind... unfortunately. But as I mentioned earlier these perceptions come from a lack of knowledge in the general public of ballistics and how the body reacts to trauma. This is the best example of what I'm talking about. Some of the best briefs I've ever seen are from the National Rifle Association, but people tend to ignore the experts because it's more fun to believe in the conspiracies and the experts ruin all the fun.

 

And then there are those who would refute any other possible explanation outright because of a "general lack of knowledge in the general public of ballistics and how the body reacts to trauma" as if they are privy to knowledge that nobody else can get.

[Beck]

And then there are those who would refute any other possible explanation outright because of a "general lack of knowledge in the general public of ballistics and how the body reacts to trauma" as if they are privy to knowledge that nobody else can get.

 

Funny. But the information is there; it's just that it's not as loud as the information most people are drawn to. The media is like a carnival. The one who can yell,