Members Anderton Posted August 31, 2011 Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 Pros? Cons? Worth the money? Too expensive to even consider? Inquiring minds want to know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author MikeRivers Posted August 31, 2011 CMS Author Share Posted August 31, 2011 If you count the SD memory card in my handheld recorder as a solid state hard disk, sure. If someone were to give or lend me a solid state drive, I'd like to try it in my Mackie HDR24/96, but I haven't felt the urge to buy one for the Mackie recorder or for a computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members elsongs Posted August 31, 2011 Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 How big are they (in capacity, that is) these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ggm1960 Posted August 31, 2011 Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 I just read that the new Korg Kronos uses a solid state drive and you can record audio to it.I imagine they're quite a bit faster, looking forward to the day when they become standard equipment. I don't currently have the time, or inclination, to be buying one and replacing a platter drive in any of my computers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted August 31, 2011 Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 Physical size is the same. They range in price from maybe a $1.60 per gig? A 60 gig is about $98, 128G $168 You can buy a regular 1 terabyte drive for $60 now. The speed is the key. A solid state can can be randomly accessed because theres no spinning disk or moving heads and therefore can handel broader bandwidth and be about twice the speed of a standard hard drive. Other benifits are theres no noise, smaller size, less power needed, less heat generated, and the life expectancy. Drawbacks are they are expensive, and they dont work with encrypted data unless you used special erasure tools.Most popular SSD are based on MLC NAND flash memory and this type of memory cannot overwrite files, only write information to empty blocks or previously erased blocks. The other item is lifespan. Most have a lifespan of 2,000,000 hours. After doing some research thats about 228 years. They also have a limitation of many write cycles you can perform. Its about 40 years for a typical computer. Audio does allot more read an writes, but even then, I doubt its going to be a big issue, especially if you have a separate OS and recording drive. I may want to get one for my OS and use regular drives for my storage. This way the OS would fly and not interrupt the audio flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members djwayne Posted August 31, 2011 Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 I've got two 64 gig SSD's, one for my Ivory II program, and one for my East West Symphonic Gold Complete program. I've also got Sonar X1 Essentials and Adobe CS 5.5 installed on the second SSD. I haven't done much recording with them, but the programs load up quickly and work flawlessly. The recordings I have done comes out perfect. The biggest benefit is working with the sound sample programs, they load up very quickly. I'm waiting for the prices to come down and then I'll get a larger one for my OS. The big draw is that they operate quietly. The only drawback is the price per gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Geoff Grace Posted August 31, 2011 Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 Too expensive to even consider? I spent $1,000 for my first 1 GB hard drive back in 1994--which would be nearly $1,500 in today's dollars--so in that regard, SSD drives aren't even remotely expensive. That said, I'm in no hurry to spend money on the latest technological development when the VelociRaptor drives I currently have work fine. Best, Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members djwayne Posted August 31, 2011 Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 Well a 240 gig ssd to replace my current 500gig standard drive would cost $599 at Newegg. That's more than I want to spend right now. My two 64 gig drives cost around $90 each which wasn't too bad, but it isn't all that much gig wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bookumdano2 Posted August 31, 2011 Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 sata drives are pretty cool these days what with lots of storage, dirt-low prices, reliability, millions of backup solutions. Load time is fine for me. Beats the heck out of floppies. I'll get into ssd drives when motor-driven drives are finally history and ssd is down to current sata pricing. By the way, there's always something new on the way. floppies, ide, sata, ssd. What's on the horizon for after flash memory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members djwayne Posted August 31, 2011 Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 I don't know what's on the horizon...last I heard ssd's were supposed to come down to a dollar a gig, but I haven't seen that happen yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author MikeRivers Posted August 31, 2011 CMS Author Share Posted August 31, 2011 The only drawback is the price per gig. Bah! Kids these days! The first hard drive I bought for a computer was 20 MB and cost $400. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members djwayne Posted August 31, 2011 Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 Well, when you can get a 1000 gig drive for $60.00 what's the point of spending lots more money ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spokenward Posted August 31, 2011 Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 The first person - with an interface that works with Lion that has an SSD with Thunderbolt that can brag about a trackcount on a MacBook Air or MacMini will change everyone's perception of value. So I'm guessing by AES. I am using SSDs for post because they speed up renders in long form stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LRon Butterfly Posted August 31, 2011 Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 I've been using a hybrid 500/4 gig drive - the Seagate Momentus XT. It's a 7200 rpm hard drive with a 4 gig solid state front end. It manages frequently accessed data from the SS portion. I have yet to use a full SSD but replacing the HD in my MacBookPro with the XT certain has extended battery life, make the mac boot much faster and I've had no issues with recording audio onto it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ernest Buckley Posted August 31, 2011 Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 Nope, I converted, I only use analog Disk Drives now... they just sound... warmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members djwayne Posted August 31, 2011 Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 I tried one of those analog disk drives and the tape kept jamming up on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ernest Buckley Posted August 31, 2011 Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 I tried one of those analog disk drives and the tape kept jamming up on me. Well, you most likely didn`t bake them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members djwayne Posted August 31, 2011 Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 Oooops, I thought you were supposed to put them in the freezer..... Somebody on the internet said so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ernest Buckley Posted August 31, 2011 Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 Oooops, I thought you were supposed to put them in the freezer..... Yes, after you bake them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members djwayne Posted August 31, 2011 Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 Hmmmm, the guys at Gearslutz didn't say anything about baking them...could they be wrong ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ernest Buckley Posted August 31, 2011 Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 Don`t listen to those schmucks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members djwayne Posted August 31, 2011 Members Share Posted August 31, 2011 I quit listening to those schmucks years ago. No matter what piece of equipment I would buy, somebody would jump up out of the blue and trash it, and would say I should have bought..._____ _____ cause that's what the real pro's use. Happens everytime !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted September 1, 2011 Members Share Posted September 1, 2011 That's just because you never choose the gear that real pros use!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members djwayne Posted September 1, 2011 Members Share Posted September 1, 2011 That's just because you never choose the gear that real pros use!! Yes I did. They'd all talk up a piece of equipment, I'd buy it, and a week later somebody else would be trashing the same piece. Very frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the stranger Posted September 1, 2011 Members Share Posted September 1, 2011 I record into my DAW, which then transmits the digital data stream (less than real time) through a Commodore 64 and onto compact cassettes. I use high bias cassettes for the warmest range of sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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