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  • 7" Google Tablet

    With the new Nexus coming out, companies must be placing bets on the 7" tablet as the size of choice.
    Anyone use one for composing music or live playing? I'm numb about the android OS and it's capabilities. I'd like to hookup a recording/midi interface to one. I've looked at some nice iPad apps, but are they gen'ly available for the newer OS's?
    Prog's that would be nice would be a midi controller, DAW, lyric and chord viewer for live playing...
    Maybe a different forum?
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    I don't know about that. I have a 10" Samsung Galaxy (I was just reading an article in the newspaper today about how a judge has banned it as being unfair competition for Apple) and I find it to be pretty useless. It's too big to be pocket sized (same with the 7" size) so I don't take it everywhere I go. And when I have to think about taking something like this along, I'll take a computer instead. But we've had that discussion here before and nobody won.

    Maybe this link will work.

    At a recent trade show, I was playing with a 7" tablet called "Matrix One Next Generation Tablet" that's targeted toward music and multimedia applications. Most attractive thing for me was that it has a real USB port, but it runs an Android OS so it'll still be a while (or never if it doesn't catch on) before we start seeing things like good multitrack recorders, or even a good SPL meter. Does Android have a class compliant USB audio driver? Nobody knows because nobody yet has a way to connect a USB audio device to one. And like my 10" tablet (and everybody else's iPad) it's to big to slip in a pocket, so it isn't going to become a take-anywhere device.
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    • #3
      Android will be getting more audio features with the upcoming OS, still it will be Years behind the iPad.
      http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2012/07/02/nexus-7-review/
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      • #4
        I don't know about that. I have a 10" Samsung Galaxy (I was just reading an article in the newspaper today about how a judge has banned it as being unfair competition for Apple) and I find it to be pretty useless. It's too big to be pocket sized (same with the 7" size) so I don't take it everywhere I go. And when I have to think about taking something like this along, I'll take a computer instead. But we've had that discussion here before and nobody won.

        Maybe this link will work.

        At a recent trade show, I was playing with a 7" tablet called "Matrix One Next Generation Tablet" that's targeted toward music and multimedia applications. Most attractive thing for me was that it has a real USB port, but it runs an Android OS so it'll still be a while (or never if it doesn't catch on) before we start seeing things like good multitrack recorders, or even a good SPL meter. Does Android have a class compliant USB audio driver? Nobody knows because nobody yet has a way to connect a USB audio device to one. And like my 10" tablet (and everybody else's iPad) it's to big to slip in a pocket, so it isn't going to become a take-anywhere device.
        And a judge in the UK is forcing Apple to essentially publicly flog itself for the next six months for its repeated claims that Samsung 'stole' their ideas -- claims the court found to be false.[INDENT][INDENT][INDENT][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#222222]Apple Inc. (AAPL) (AAPL) was ordered by a judge to publish a notice on its U.K. website and in British newspapers alerting people to a ruling that Samsung Electronics Co. didn


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        • #5
          Android will be getting more audio features with the upcoming OS, still it will be Years behind the iPad.
          http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2012/07/02/nexus-7-review/
          That's pretty hopeful sounding. That said, 10 ms of cue monitoring latency is completely undoable by me for audio work. Would be fine for acoustic sources though, where I could hear the source anyhow. But for DI? Forget about it. I've tried my desktop computer, which has an ~8ms roundtrip. It's a trainwreck.


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          • #6
            And a judge in the UK is forcing Apple to essentially publicly flog itself for the next six months for its repeated claims that Samsung 'stole' their ideas -- claims the court found to be false.


            They're really tough on the computer business over there. Who is it that's still forcing Microsoft to offer an alternate web browser to Explorer? Can't users download Firefox over there? Or do they want Microsoft to preload it with a Windows installation?


            Supposedly, the new JellyBean (sp/cap?) Android OS and Google's Nexus hardware is greatly improved in the latency department

            I have no way to judge my tablet's audio performance for anything but playback, and I really don't expect much in the way of fidelity with an unknown music player application and a mini headphone jack. Mine has Honeycomb on it, and Samsung says Ice Cream Sandwich should be available for it before the end of the summer. But the Android "thing" is that not all the hardware is the same and not everyone's version of the OS is the same, so it may be several years before we have "Android" audio apps and not ones that are for specific operating systems.

            I will say that I think, for many, tablets are probably as good or better. The very devices I dismissed as being ill-suited for much besides media-consumption, social media updating, and quick lookups are, indeed, probably pretty reasonable for all those purposes.

            And those are the purposes that most folks put their computers to.


            If all I wanted to do when I travel is watch a movie on the airplane, I'd definitely prefer my tablet to a computer. But I don't do that now so I'm not likely to load up my tablet with a movie and watch it. I'd rather take a nap or read a book. Or watch some of the satellite channels that Virgin America has on their seatback TV that I don't get to watch at home since I don't have cable.
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            "Today's production equipment is IT-based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio." - John Watkinson, Resolution Magazine, October 2006
            Drop by http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com now and then

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            • #7
              I hear a 7.5" iPad will be released soon.

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              • #8
                I hear a 7.5" iPad will be released soon.


                And as we all know, size DOES matter.
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                "Today's production equipment is IT-based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio." - John Watkinson, Resolution Magazine, October 2006
                Drop by http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com now and then

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                • #9
                  And as we all know, size DOES matter.


                  It was mentioned, size matters when fitting into women's handbags.

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                  • #10
                    And as we all know, size DOES matter.
                    We all know there will be people -- and more than a few of them -- who will have to have one of each.


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                    • #11
                      I don't know about that. I have a 10" Samsung Galaxy (I was just reading an article in the newspaper today about how a judge has banned it as being unfair competition for Apple) and I find it to be pretty useless.


                      That gave me a shock! Thanks for providing a link.

                      I think that judge has a heavy pro-Apple bias. She's using legal buzzwords like "unfair competition," "flooding the market" and "counterfeit." These are not concepts that belong in a patent dispute IMO. When you bought the Galaxy, I assume you didn't have any confusion about the origin of manufacture.

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                      • #12
                        I think it's that they're really tough on what they perceive as anti-competitive practices. I thought the whole browser thing was, perhaps, the right battle over the wrong hill -- but in the years since, I've certainly had to admit that, yes, for guys like you and I, installing an alternate browser is no big deal (and I'll admit, I really liked the fact that Windows Explorer transformed into Internet Explorer as required). But for most folks, it's pretty close to no way. I have clients -- who have web sites -- who couldn't figure out how to install a different browser. I had to explain what a browser was to one of my clients. He had no idea. It was just the internet to him.


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                        • #13
                          That gave me a shock! Thanks for providing a link.

                          I think that judge has a heavy pro-Apple bias. She's using legal buzzwords like "unfair competition," "flooding the market" and "counterfeit." These are not concepts that belong in a patent dispute IMO. When you bought the Galaxy, I assume you didn't have any confusion about the origin of manufacture.
                          Just from what you write -- and without looking up that case, I'm gonna guess that it's Judge Lucy Koh.

                          What do I win?


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                          • #14


                            Oh yeah. She is not exactly universally respected in the tech world at this time. To say the least.


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                            • #15
                              You called it!

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