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Kraftwerk Nominated for Rock and Roll Hall of Fame


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I sure wish the Kingston Trio would be inducted.... or someone would remember to nominate them.

Were it not for so many of us following the trio on the planet in 62-63, there wouldn't have been 18,000,345 guitar players throwing their acoustic guitars out the window and trading up to electric stuff in February 1964.

In the meantime, yeah, Kraftwerk has a place. It's a cinch Yes is never gonna get in, so why not.

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Quote Originally Posted by Surrealistic View Post
Definitely deserved. They're not really my cup of tea - in fact I don't own (and never have owned) a single Kraftwerk song, though I've liked a few of them - but their influence is inarguable.
I read an article somewhere many years ago called "Kraftwerk - the most influential band ever?" It was mostly about bands who said they'd been influenced by Kraftwerk, and the list was both long and prestigious.

I've heard that their main guy, Florian Schneider, was independently wealthy and so Kraftwerk could always be whatever he wanted it to be, he wasn't depending on it to make a living. Apparently he also likes bicycling a lot smile.gif
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Quote Originally Posted by mister natural View Post
who else is on the list this year ?
Most notably, I believe Rush was nominated.

Here's the "snub list" of bands that have failed to enter the HOF:

http://www.futurerocklegends.com/The_Snub_List.php

You become eligible 25 years after your debut. The entry for Bjork barely seems possible (she has been eligible longer than bands like Cure), but apparently she had an album in the 1970s when she was a kid.

Oh, and yes to Kraftwerk X1000000
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Quote Originally Posted by Anderton

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I've heard that their main guy, Florian Schneider, was independently wealthy and so Kraftwerk could always be whatever he wanted it to be, he wasn't depending on it to make a living. Apparently he also likes bicycling a lot smile.gif

 

That's funny. The co-founder of Yello is also a multimillionaire. Maybe you had to be a millionaire to actually afford synthesizers in those days.
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Quote Originally Posted by Surrealistic

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Definitely deserved. They're not really my cup of tea - in fact I don't own (and never have owned) a single Kraftwerk song, though I've liked a few of them - but their influence is inarguable.

 

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Quote Originally Posted by Surrealistic View Post
Definitely deserved. They're not really my cup of tea - in fact I don't own (and never have owned) a single Kraftwerk song, though I've liked a few of them - but their influence is inarguable.
I have no idea what you listen to, but have you ever heard the first two or three Kraftwerk albums? If you like groups like Can or Neu, you might enjoy this. They play all the instruments, have real acoustic drums, a flute player, etc. Here, have a listen:



Also, check out early stuff like "Tone Float" (which I think is under the name of "Organisation" or other early stuff and see if you like that better than the more sequences, synthesized, robotic stuff. Now, I like that version of Kraftwerk too, but the early stuff is very very different and also quite influential. See what you think.
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Quote Originally Posted by techristian View Post
YES !! GREAT !!
YES! NO! Yes has not been, and probably won't be, inducted. Due to the long-standing "position" that prog rock is not rock and roll. Not like Madonna, obviously. Or Herb Alpert, that rockin' demon.

But why do I care? Do I care? Not really...but I like to see credit where credit is due.

The R&R HOF list of inductees makes a nice list of good musicians, I'll grant that - but it seems more like just some rock critic's personal list of favs rather than reflecting any kind of common consensus.

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Quote Originally Posted by UstadKhanAli View Post
I have no idea what you listen to, but have you ever heard the first two or three Kraftwerk albums? If you like groups like Can or Neu, you might enjoy this. They play all the instruments, have real acoustic drums, a flute player, etc. Here, have a listen:



Also, check out early stuff like "Tone Float" (which I think is under the name of "Organisation" or other early stuff and see if you like that better than the more sequences, synthesized, robotic stuff. Now, I like that version of Kraftwerk too, but the early stuff is very very different and also quite influential. See what you think.
That is freaking great, and no, I've never heard that. But I do hear that sensibility even in the stuff I'll post below. They are very keen to musical development and variations on a theme and all those crazy early musical ideas... I just think you've got to be paying attention...

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Quote Originally Posted by MargeHowel View Post
but I don't have a lot of use for a R&R Hall of Fame in the first place
The Museum itself is pretty special - you gotta go at least once - just to see the Sgt Pepper Uniforms in person, the hand-written lyric-sheet for "Lucy in the Sky", Jimi's white Strat
It might seem corny to some; but these things are real & right there

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Quote Originally Posted by mister natural View Post
The Museum itself is pretty special - you gotta go at least once - just to see the Sgt Pepper Uniforms in person, the hand-written lyric-sheet for "Lucy in the Sky", Jimi's white Strat
It might seem corny to some; but these things are real & right there

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I don't have a problem with a music museum (We have the EMP locally and it's pretty neat) -- it's the HoF aspect that I don't have much use for
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Quote Originally Posted by MargeHowel View Post
I don't have a problem with a music museum (We have the EMP locally and it's pretty neat)
Agreed! I'm surprised it doesn't get more attention/press.

-- it's the HoF aspect that I don't have much use for
Doesn't seem very "rock and roll," does it? But hey, at least Kraftwerk was nominated smile.gif
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Quote Originally Posted by UstadKhanAli View Post
I have no idea what you listen to, but have you ever heard the first two or three Kraftwerk albums? If you like groups like Can or Neu, you might enjoy this. They play all the instruments, have real acoustic drums, a flute player, etc. Here, have a listen:



Also, check out early stuff like "Tone Float" (which I think is under the name of "Organisation" or other early stuff and see if you like that better than the more sequences, synthesized, robotic stuff. Now, I like that version of Kraftwerk too, but the early stuff is very very different and also quite influential. See what you think.

Brilliant. That lineup actually features Rother and Dinger from Neu! if I'm not mistaken (it's definitely Dinger on drums at least), and it's Florian Schneider who plays the flute.

What a great great band.
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Kraftwerk were very important and certainly belong. Ironically, they may be the band most responsible for killing rock 'n roll. (and fathering Hip Hop and Electronica )

I agree that most awards and halls of fame etc. are silly except for starting discussions/arguments. Especially the Grammys.

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Every now and then, an online radio I listen to will play the full-length version of "Autobahn". It's still mesmerizing and sounds fantastic on a modern quality digital system. In 1974, I didn't appreciate how musically sophisticated it was. Interesting that American FM stations in 1974 would latch onto an experimental German group... and effectively propel them into the mainstream. Could that still happen?

In 1977, we had a German exchange student... I, age 14, showed him my array of KRAFTWERK albums; his eyes widened and he clucked his tongue: He said that in Germany they were considered fringey, dangerous socialist radicals, antinuke before that stance was fashionable, and for a nice German person to buy one of their albums was a bold sociopolitical statement. (Can you imagine?)


In 1981, my favorite disco would mix this in with their usual fare of American R&B and English New Wave. It sounded impossibly edgy at the time... edgier than any other material they'd play.

With Kraftwerk, you never could quite tell whether they were celebrating our new era of machines and computers..... or obliquely protesting their encroachment.

"Now I press the little key.... it plays a pretty melody!" (BEEP--BOPP---BRR-RR) Then they'd play the ugliest, most mindless little computer melody one could imagine. Are computers incredible, or are they ruining human artistic expression?

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Quote Originally Posted by Anderton

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I've heard that their main guy, Florian Schneider, was independently wealthy and so Kraftwerk could always be whatever he wanted it to be, he wasn't depending on it to make a living. Apparently he also likes bicycling a lot smile.gif

 

With the synth gear they started with back then, I reckon the only you could get that sound would to have a very healthy bank account to buy the equipment. wink.gif
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