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  • Are you in tune with your aural environment?

    I'm apparently always listening to my aural environment.



    Sometimes I'll be in a restaurant or some other public place and I will make a comment about a song playing in the background and someone will inevitably say "What song ?" or "Oh yeah, I didn't notice it." - I can't help but notice it.



    I can't stand the sound of multiple audio sources playing simultaneously.



    I recently had lunch in a restaurant that had two TVs blaring on different stations. Also there was pop music playing over the sound system. I could hear spanish language music wafting out of the kitchen and then somebody had the nerve to put a dollar in the jukebox.



    As I sat there with the cacophony of five different sound sources blasting around the place I looked around to see if anybody else was as irritated as I was.



    Not a single person seemed to notice it.



    Do you think as a musician or audio engineer you hear differently than normal people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Folder
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    Do you think as a musician or audio engineer you hear differently than normal people?




    Research has shown that musicians process music with their left brains wheras "ordinary people" process it with their right brain. To me this means that we analyze it constantly rather than just enjoy it without thinking about it as others do.



    I have the same issue that you do. I can't NOT listen to music, it can never be background to me, at least not entirely. It grabs my attention - which can sometimes be very irritating as in when someone is talking to me while several sources of music are going on in the background.



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      Quote Originally Posted by Folder
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      Do you think as a musician or audio engineer you hear differently than normal people?




      Research has shown that musicians process music with their left brains wheras "ordinary people" process it with their right brain. To me this means that we analyze it constantly rather than just enjoy it without thinking about it as others do.



      I have the same issue that you do. I can't NOT listen to music, it can never be background to me, at least not entirely. It grabs my attention - which can sometimes be very irritating as in when someone is talking to me while several sources of music are going on in the background.



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      • #4
        I can ignore music easily. However, the cacophony you describe is irritating. Multiple sources going on at the same time should drive most people insane, and in a restaurant, a good manager should control that. People may not have seemed to notice it probably because they were trying desperately to tune it out or just have fun.



        I am sure that as a musician or recording engineer, we listen to music differently. I'll sometimes listen to a particular part of a song, like the bass line, or admire the drummer or the production or that kind of thing.
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        • #5
          I can ignore music easily. However, the cacophony you describe is irritating. Multiple sources going on at the same time should drive most people insane, and in a restaurant, a good manager should control that. People may not have seemed to notice it probably because they were trying desperately to tune it out or just have fun.



          I am sure that as a musician or recording engineer, we listen to music differently. I'll sometimes listen to a particular part of a song, like the bass line, or admire the drummer or the production or that kind of thing.
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          • #6
            Yeah I have trouble talking if there's music playing. I find it super distracting.
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            • #7
              Yeah I have trouble talking if there's music playing. I find it super distracting.
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              • #8
                Hear differently probably not, if anything maybe worse because our ears tend to be worn out.



                But Process different sure.. You obviously just pay attention. Most don't. I a lot of time go into another step, and find myself cataloging acoustic properties of rooms. How reverberate vs softy is it. Is there interesting resonances, etc. Check out the construction and what not.



                The cacophony you describe can be painful, but it can also be serendipidously amazing sometimes.. Its uncanny and I have no idea if I spelled that correctly
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                • #9
                  Hear differently probably not, if anything maybe worse because our ears tend to be worn out.



                  But Process different sure.. You obviously just pay attention. Most don't. I a lot of time go into another step, and find myself cataloging acoustic properties of rooms. How reverberate vs softy is it. Is there interesting resonances, etc. Check out the construction and what not.



                  The cacophony you describe can be painful, but it can also be serendipidously amazing sometimes.. Its uncanny and I have no idea if I spelled that correctly
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                  • #10






                    Quote Originally Posted by Folder
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                    I recently had lunch in a restaurant that had two TVs blaring on different stations.




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                      Quote Originally Posted by Folder
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                      I recently had lunch in a restaurant that had two TVs blaring on different stations.




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                      • #12
                        Yes, I find music to be distracting more than soothing. I can't NOT listen to it. Worst is when the sound system is distorted and I'm thinking "how can these people work here all day listening to this!"



                        Many people enjoy falling asleep listening to music. I can't do it. I LISTEN to it and it keeps me awake. I need talk radio or television to bore me to sleep.
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                        • #13
                          Yes, I find music to be distracting more than soothing. I can't NOT listen to it. Worst is when the sound system is distorted and I'm thinking "how can these people work here all day listening to this!"



                          Many people enjoy falling asleep listening to music. I can't do it. I LISTEN to it and it keeps me awake. I need talk radio or television to bore me to sleep.
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                          • #14
                            Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) talks about three basic representational types that occur in the population: Visual Types, Auditory Types, and Kinesthetic Types. Based on the sensory information you use PRIMARILY to understand the world around you. Auditory Types-- you guessed it--- tend to rely strongly upon their ears to process the world around them. You can bet that Auditory Types are found in musical/audio occupations. Aso verbal occupations: NLP points out that reading text is more an AUDITORY activity than a VISUAL one (think about it).



                            I'm the same way vis-a-vis auditory stimuli: I'll hear it when others seemingly do not. I think it's cruel and unusual punishment, for example, that Wal-Mart employees have to listen to various videos play and replay incessantly. Some actress gushing, all day long, about how rich her coffee is. I mean, that's just pure and simple brainwash... and not even GOOD brainwash. If a song plays at the store or in a restaurant, I can't NOT hear it. DOLLAR TREE has the most amazing in-house piped-in music, BTW: 1960's oldies, but the really OBSCURE ones that Oldies radio NEVER plays!





                            In NLP Auditory is the Representational System dealing with hearing. It can be internal or external. Also known as Auditory Tonal (At)

                            There is a Representational System for each of our senses; this is the way we experience our world. What we actually perceive are representations of what each sensory organ transmits to us. Auditory (A) is to do with hearing we have (Ae) Hearing External Sounds and (Ai) Recalling of Internal Sounds.

                            Lowering your voice, slowing it and speaking in, for example, a sexy rhythm, will cause an activation of the auditory system. By using accessing cues, little nuances of behavior activate a major representational system, such as the auditory system. These are subtle behaviors can indicate which representational system a person is using. Typical types of accessing cues of the auditory system include eye voice tone and tempo.

                            If your thoughts (internal representations) are mainly pictures, then you will tend to use more visual words when describing your thoughts. If your thoughts are based on logic or making sense of something, you may tend to use words that reflect the logic of your thinking, likewise, for auditory and kinaesthetic. The words you use reflect your internal thought processes. This is a very important point as you are revealing your internal thoughts and thought structures to others through the words you choose to use or not use
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                              Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) talks about three basic representational types that occur in the population: Visual Types, Auditory Types, and Kinesthetic Types. Based on the sensory information you use PRIMARILY to understand the world around you. Auditory Types-- you guessed it--- tend to rely strongly upon their ears to process the world around them. You can bet that Auditory Types are found in musical/audio occupations. Aso verbal occupations: NLP points out that reading text is more an AUDITORY activity than a VISUAL one (think about it).



                              I'm the same way vis-a-vis auditory stimuli: I'll hear it when others seemingly do not. I think it's cruel and unusual punishment, for example, that Wal-Mart employees have to listen to various videos play and replay incessantly. Some actress gushing, all day long, about how rich her coffee is. I mean, that's just pure and simple brainwash... and not even GOOD brainwash. If a song plays at the store or in a restaurant, I can't NOT hear it. DOLLAR TREE has the most amazing in-house piped-in music, BTW: 1960's oldies, but the really OBSCURE ones that Oldies radio NEVER plays!





                              In NLP Auditory is the Representational System dealing with hearing. It can be internal or external. Also known as Auditory Tonal (At)

                              There is a Representational System for each of our senses; this is the way we experience our world. What we actually perceive are representations of what each sensory organ transmits to us. Auditory (A) is to do with hearing we have (Ae) Hearing External Sounds and (Ai) Recalling of Internal Sounds.

                              Lowering your voice, slowing it and speaking in, for example, a sexy rhythm, will cause an activation of the auditory system. By using accessing cues, little nuances of behavior activate a major representational system, such as the auditory system. These are subtle behaviors can indicate which representational system a person is using. Typical types of accessing cues of the auditory system include eye voice tone and tempo.

                              If your thoughts (internal representations) are mainly pictures, then you will tend to use more visual words when describing your thoughts. If your thoughts are based on logic or making sense of something, you may tend to use words that reflect the logic of your thinking, likewise, for auditory and kinaesthetic. The words you use reflect your internal thought processes. This is a very important point as you are revealing your internal thoughts and thought structures to others through the words you choose to use or not use
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