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  • How is Jazz and music evolving today

     

    How is Jazz and music evolving today. Is the scenery too complex, too many styles at the same time?

    Is there anything really new and proper leaders in Jazz. Where does the music get its direction ( web, musicians, companies, education ) ? 

     

    Gramsbal

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    You present a compelling question, one that I have thought about for some time. I was fortunate enough to grow up in Los Angeles, during a time when the great jazz singers, and musicians were still around, although there are a few left.

     My father played with many of the greatest (names not ness.), he would take my brother and I along, although we weren't suppose to be in the clubs, it was some of our best times. The music made then was from the soul of individuals that had experienced the 40's, 50's, an 60's, the music touched your soul. 

    Unfortunately the purity of Jazz has given way to electronics, digitally has harden the sound, commercialism is today's recognition, how many albums you sell, what you look like, what training have you had. The majority of vocalist sound the same, or they strive to duplicate what has already been done, and pass themselves off as original. Jazz is becoming like bubble-gum music, better known as Pop, and even R&B is gone the latter. 

     Look to Neo-Soul, or small local clubs/bars, there you may find some hope.

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    Traveled around America ( 17 States ), I'm an ole-school jazz/blues sang-er.

      

    Vintage and Nature (http://shaftesbury.webs.com)

    Very wise words, good to see that I am not alone with these thoughts. We are living hard times these days. The world is a confusing place for young people and finding yourself is probably the key in music and in life as you said. I must now read it again.

    Thank you and Best Regards VN.


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    Jazz is dead and has been for 50 years now.

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    • Lee Knight
      Lee Knight commented
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      He says look to neo-soul. So true. I love the live band performances on BET. Bands behind Jill Scott or Neyo. They're great. Angelo... that stuff. Those players are the new jazz. The drawback of course is that it is not instrumental music. Well, that' not a drawback but the fact that there isn't any instrumental music of that ilk is a shame.

       

      When I worked at La Paloma Theater as a teen in the 70's, we had show by the Headhunters, Gary Burton, Keith Jarret, Chuck Mangione, Jean Luc-Ponty, Billy Cobham, John Klemmer. And while on record you could argue those acts aren't really jazz...live, it was clear that they were very much jazz. Those are the roots of all those guys.

       

      Anyway, I'm thankful for that opportunity to hear so much great music before it went away and at such a young age.


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    New York is a special case. There are a dozen Blues clubs in Chicago that are all making money. Is Blues alive?
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      vintage_nature wrote:

       


      How is Jazz and music evolving today. Is the scenery too complex, too many styles at the same time?


      Is there anything really new and proper leaders in Jazz. Where does the music get its direction ( web, musicians, companies, education ) ? 


       


      Gramsbal


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      You present a compelling question, one that I have thought about for some time. I was fortunate enough to grow up in Los Angeles, during a time when the great jazz singers, and musicians were still around, although there are a few left.


       My father played with many of the greatest (names not ness.), he would take my brother and I along, although we weren't suppose to be in the clubs, it was some of our best times. The music made then was from the soul of individuals that had experienced the 40's, 50's, an 60's, the music touched your soul. 


      Unfortunately the purity of Jazz has given way to electronics, digitally has harden the sound, commercialism is today's recognition, how many albums you sell, what you look like, what training have you had. The majority of vocalist sound the same, or they strive to duplicate what has already been done, and pass themselves off as original. Jazz is becoming like bubble-gum music, better known as Pop, and even R&B is gone the latter. 


       Look to Neo-Soul, or small local clubs/bars, there you may find some hope.


      Source(s):


      Traveled around America ( 17 States ), I'm an ole-school jazz/blues sang-er.


        


      Vintage and Nature (http://shaftesbury.webs.com)


      Very wise words, good to see that I am not alone with these thoughts. We are living hard times these days. The world is a confusing place for young people and finding yourself is probably the key in music and in life as you said. I must now read it again.


      Thank you and Best Regards VN.




      This is an intersesting topic -- unforunately, I don't believe the poster has any much interest in it at all. 


      After reviewing a number of his posts, he's simply looking for an excuse to post links to his new album around the forum.


      In my official capacity -- and because spammers are still a big problem on HC -- I'm locking this thread, erasing his links and sending him a warning. He's lucky. Most spammers get a perma-ban right off the top.


       


      UPDATE: Vintage Nature got in touch with me and assured me he simply wanted to discuss the subject, so I'm unlocking this thread.



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      • vintage_nature
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        After reading the discussion and considering the evolving of jazz and music in general I had a new thought.

        I was asking for something new but is there any need for that?

        Jazz came with breaking the traditions in music, strange chords and disharmony etc.

        But now when the world is unstable it is ok in music to keep the old structures
        be it traditional jazz or blues (Gary Clark for exeample).

        Best Regards
        V&N

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