Members Gremson Posted June 26, 2014 Members Share Posted June 26, 2014 So here's a silly question,..What are the advantages and disadvantages having many or fewer lugs on a snare? I see more lugs making it easier to fine tune your snare, but what else?My desire for a vintage Slingerland Blue/Silver duco snare hasn't faded. I'm finding a couple six-lug snares for good prices, and I'm wondering how having 4 fewer lugs will effect me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted June 26, 2014 Members Share Posted June 26, 2014 It's a tension vs hoop rigidity thing. If you tune real low, 2 lugs might be enough. 6 lugs is plenty for the 30s and 40s sounds. 8+ lugs for crispier tunings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gremson Posted June 26, 2014 Author Members Share Posted June 26, 2014 bitchen. That helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dendy Jarrett Posted June 26, 2014 Members Share Posted June 26, 2014 Grem: Best sounding drum I ever owned was an 80's 12 lug Slingerland (prototype) snare. A couple of things that aide in tuning a drum: More lugs, more defined tuning - to specific notes if you will.Die Cast Hoops: HUGE improvement in tune- ability. D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carminemw Posted June 27, 2014 Members Share Posted June 27, 2014 Uh Oh...I'm gonna have to sort of disagree with Dendy ( duck...swing...duck...block assualt with my right arm) The more lugs the finer the tuning...TO A POINT. It a) depends on the circumference of the drum, b) the pliability and thickness of the head and c) how much is too much. They say the more lugs, the more accurate ...I have found that when you start to get too many lugs involved for the circumference of the drum. the marginal fraction of the pitch change also can be inhibited. That's because, the space between the 2 lugs is too small. When you start getting casings that are only like 2-3 inches apart, the amount of head that will be tensioned is kinda too small to make a legitimate differnce. I've had tunings actually inhibited because even though I was loosening 1 lug, the next lug in line had so much tension on it, that it would not leg the original lug respond correctly. More is good, if tempered with distance and circumference between each lug. My best sounding snare per se, is my old 10 leg Supraphonic. Does it tune better than an 8 lug Acrolite...yes...if I has 12 or 14 lugs to a side, I don't think it would be any better...JMO... ( duck...swing...duck...block assualt with my left arm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dendy Jarrett Posted June 27, 2014 Members Share Posted June 27, 2014 Caveat or clarifications to my statement that had the Carm-Challenge: I was pretty much limiting those comments to snare drums. ALTHOUGH, I can never get my toms to sound as good with regular 2.3mm power hoops as they do with Gretsch style die-cast hoops! D (swing ... duck ... swing ... downward blunt force with right arm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carminemw Posted June 28, 2014 Members Share Posted June 28, 2014 To hoop or not to hoop...THAT is the eternal question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted June 28, 2014 Members Share Posted June 28, 2014 Interesting points. I had not specified diameter because a snare drum is 14". Don't you know nuttin? One important point I neglected to mention is if you go with 2 lugs, make sure they're not on the same side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gremson Posted June 28, 2014 Author Members Share Posted June 28, 2014 Oh the ever elusive two lugged snare.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cdawg Posted June 28, 2014 Members Share Posted June 28, 2014 floaters have NO lugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gremson Posted June 29, 2014 Author Members Share Posted June 29, 2014 I thought we couldn't have poop threads on HC anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cdawg Posted June 29, 2014 Members Share Posted June 29, 2014 I thought we couldn't have poop threads on HC anymore? f*ck the system. (no, we just can't use swears.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted June 29, 2014 Members Share Posted June 29, 2014 I checked. The toilets wont flush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cdawg Posted June 29, 2014 Members Share Posted June 29, 2014 it has become an unkempt, festering compost toilet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twosticks Posted June 30, 2014 Members Share Posted June 30, 2014 I've had a few 8 lug snares, played a few 6 lug snares, and played some and owned at least one 10 lug snare. On a 14" snare, To me 6 lugs just isn't enough, it will get you approx. where you want to be for punk or grunge and some vintage or trashy sounding snare sounds. 8 Lugs is better, you can tighten more for pop or country or where more tuning or stick definition is needed (ALL depends on the head of course!) You can do brushes and ghost notes but with little "articulation" (meaning far away from the set and you won't hear those soft hits as well) 10 lugs lets you tune very well and still lets the drum head breathe and still sound somewhat "Open" in my humble opinion. On a drum set, I really wouldn't see the need for a 12 or higher lug snare UNLESS you are part of a symphony or something where delicate snare work was still needed. Then you might look at Concert Snares or Marching snares where the drums are so "crisp" you could almost play them by tapping on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boomboomdrums Posted June 30, 2014 Members Share Posted June 30, 2014 My go to snare drum of choice is a 1972 6 lug wood drum with die cast hoops. I can tune it up/down for jazz/blues/rock/country whatever. And it's plenty loud. I've gotten many compliments over the years for my snare drum sound. The key to tuning has more to do with good unmuffled heads and the the person at the other end of the drum key. I have a few other drums with more lugs, but I don't see that as a big difference in my ability to tune them. A lot of it is drum manufacturer marketing hype IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fusionfunk Posted July 2, 2014 Members Share Posted July 2, 2014 Love my old Sonor 8" x 14" Signature Series snare. It has 12 lugs per side, die cast hoops, and very heavy, thick 12 ply shells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SYMBOLIC Posted July 3, 2014 Members Share Posted July 3, 2014 My go to snare drum of choice is a 1972 6 lug wood drum with die cast hoops. . The die cast hoops are the game changer for that snare. If you put triple flanged hoops on it, it would be a different animal, because the hoop isn't as stiff and would bend/flex when played. The die cast also dries the tone out some too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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