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More lugs = more tunage?

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  • More lugs = more tunage?

    So here's a silly question,..
    What are the advantages and disadvantages having many or fewer lugs on a snare? I see more lugs making it easier to fine tune your snare, but what else?
    My desire for a vintage Slingerland Blue/Silver duco snare hasn't faded. I'm finding a couple six-lug snares for good prices, and I'm wondering how having 4 fewer lugs will effect me.
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  • #2
    It's a tension vs hoop rigidity thing. If you tune real low, 2 lugs might be enough. 6 lugs is plenty for the 30s and 40s sounds. 8+ lugs for crispier tunings.
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    • #3
      bitchen. That helps!
      Don't Sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things
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      • #4
        Grem: Best sounding drum I ever owned was an 80's 12 lug Slingerland (prototype) snare.
        A couple of things that aide in tuning a drum: More lugs, more defined tuning - to specific notes if you will.
        Die Cast Hoops: HUGE improvement in tune- ability.

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        • #5
          Uh Oh...I'm gonna have to sort of disagree with Dendy ( duck...swing...duck...block assualt with my right arm) The more lugs the finer the tuning...TO A POINT. It a) depends on the circumference of the drum, b) the pliability and thickness of the head and c) how much is too much. They say the more lugs, the more accurate ...I have found that when you start to get too many lugs involved for the circumference of the drum. the marginal fraction of the pitch change also can be inhibited. That's because, the space between the 2 lugs is too small. When you start getting casings that are only like 2-3 inches apart, the amount of head that will be tensioned is kinda too small to make a legitimate differnce. I've had tunings actually inhibited because even though I was loosening 1 lug, the next lug in line had so much tension on it, that it would not leg the original lug respond correctly. More is good, if tempered with distance and circumference between each lug. My best sounding snare per se, is my old 10 leg Supraphonic. Does it tune better than an 8 lug Acrolite...yes...if I has 12 or 14 lugs to a side, I don't think it would be any better...JMO...

          ( duck...swing...duck...block assualt with my left arm)
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          • #6
            Caveat or clarifications to my statement that had the Carm-Challenge: I was pretty much limiting those comments to snare drums. ALTHOUGH, I can never get my toms to sound as good with regular 2.3mm power hoops as they do with Gretsch style die-cast hoops!
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            • #7
              To hoop or not to hoop...THAT is the eternal question!
              The Southpaw is rising again!
              I finally made it into the Flaming Pedals of Doom. That was the longest and toughest audition I ever had to endure!
              Yep...Still the Director of the Geezer Guild for 2013...and counting

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              • #8
                Interesting points. I had not specified diameter because a snare drum is 14". Don't you know nuttin?

                One important point I neglected to mention is if you go with 2 lugs, make sure they're not on the same side.
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                • #9
                  Oh the ever elusive two lugged snare....
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                  • #10
                    floaters have NO lugs :O
                    i miss you, mark
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                    • #11
                      I thought we couldn't have poop threads on HC anymore?
                      Don't Sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Gremson View Post
                        I thought we couldn't have poop threads on HC anymore?
                        f*ck the system. (no, we just can't use swears.)
                        i miss you, mark
                        r.i.p. rudy

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                        • #13
                          I checked. The toilets wont flush.
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                          • #14
                            it has become an unkempt, festering compost toilet.
                            i miss you, mark
                            r.i.p. rudy

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                            • #15
                              I've had a few 8 lug snares, played a few 6 lug snares, and played some and owned at least one 10 lug snare. On a 14" snare, To me 6 lugs just isn't enough, it will get you approx. where you want to be for punk or grunge and some vintage or trashy sounding snare sounds. 8 Lugs is better, you can tighten more for pop or country or where more tuning or stick definition is needed (ALL depends on the head of course!) You can do brushes and ghost notes but with little "articulation" (meaning far away from the set and you won't hear those soft hits as well) 10 lugs lets you tune very well and still lets the drum head breathe and still sound somewhat "Open" in my humble opinion. On a drum set, I really wouldn't see the need for a 12 or higher lug snare UNLESS you are part of a symphony or something where delicate snare work was still needed. Then you might look at Concert Snares or Marching snares where the drums are so "crisp" you could almost play them by tapping on them.
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