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    This post is more or less gonna be bashing Creed's drummer. I just have to vent a bit. I'm so sick of hearing about Scott Phillips and how good he supposedly is.

    He lacks originality. By this I mean simply that all one has to do is listen to the chorus of ANY Creed song. You'll hear Scott on the ride, and then go to those hi-hat accents over and over again. It's very annoying.

    The reason I'm saying all of this is because my band has a couple Creed songs in our set that we play, and it's very boring to have to do that same pattern for every chorus. I know, I could just drop that, and play my own thing, but usually, when I cover a song I try to more or less play the song the way it is off the CD.

    Anyway, sorry if this bothered anyone, and if you're a Creed fan, this isn't a shot at you. I just had to get this off my chest.

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    Vent away!

    Just remember the formula for pop music (which IS what Creed is):

    Music for The Masses=Music for Retards=Keep It Simple and Uncomplicated.





    Tim

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    • #3
      He's been playing only ten years, right? I read he started drumming at 18...

      I hate Creed too. If you don't like what he plays, add your own style to make the parts more interesting.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by J-town Drummer
        This post is more or less gonna be bashing Creed's drummer. I just have to vent a bit. I'm so sick of hearing about Scott Phillips and how good he supposedly is.

        He lacks originality. By this I mean simply that all one has to do is listen to the chorus of ANY Creed song. You'll hear Scott on the ride, and then go to those hi-hat accents over and over again. It's very annoying.

        The reason I'm saying all of this is because my band has a couple Creed songs in our set that we play, and it's very boring to have to do that same pattern for every chorus. I know, I could just drop that, and play my own thing, but usually, when I cover a song I try to more or less play the song the way it is off the CD.

        Anyway, sorry if this bothered anyone, and if you're a Creed fan, this isn't a shot at you. I just had to get this off my chest.


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        • #5
          Originally posted by J-town Drummer
          This post is more or less gonna be bashing Creed's drummer. I just have to vent a bit. I'm so sick of hearing about Scott Phillips and how good he supposedly is.

          He lacks originality. By this I mean simply that all one has to do is listen to the chorus of ANY Creed song. You'll hear Scott on the ride, and then go to those hi-hat accents over and over again. It's very annoying.

          The reason I'm saying all of this is because my band has a couple Creed songs in our set that we play, and it's very boring to have to do that same pattern for every chorus. I know, I could just drop that, and play my own thing, but usually, when I cover a song I try to more or less play the song the way it is off the CD.

          Anyway, sorry if this bothered anyone, and if you're a Creed fan, this isn't a shot at you. I just had to get this off my chest.


          I had the same problem whe my band would play Pink Floyd. The music is great, but the drum parts are kind of bland. I just decided, **************** it, I don't have to concentrate too hard here, I can listen to the music and have a good time. It worked for me.
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          • #6
            someone posted he has been playing for 10 years!!!!
            oh my ****************ing god, i have been playing for 5.5 years and i can play him into the ground about 3-4 times over.

            he sucks for playing 10 years, i can only imagine what i can do when i get to my 10 year mark...
            oh yeah, i hate creed.

            kyle
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            • #7
              Originally posted by the other kyle
              someone posted he has been playing for 10 years!!!!
              oh my ****************ing god, i have been playing for 5.5 years and i can play him into the ground about 3-4 times over.

              he sucks for playing 10 years, i can only imagine what i can do when i get to my 10 year mark...
              oh yeah, i hate creed.

              kyle



              whatever dude ... just beacuse thats the way the guy plays like that in the band doesent meen thats what skill level he is at ... what he plays (boring as it may be) fits the music ... i think its alot harder to check your ego and play for the song rather than just for yourself
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              • #8
                All I have to say is - YOUR MUM!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by the other kyle
                  someone posted he has been playing for 10 years!!!!
                  oh my ****************ing god, i have been playing for 5.5 years and i can play him into the ground about 3-4 times over.

                  he sucks for playing 10 years, i can only imagine what i can do when i get to my 10 year mark...
                  oh yeah, i hate creed.

                  kyle


                  Hey, I was just defending the guy...I've never paid attention to his drum parts cause I switch the channel as soon as their tunes come on. Crazydave has a good point, maybe he could play your immature ass into the ground...
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by crazydave

                    i think its alot harder to check your ego and play for the song rather than just for yourself


                    This used to be a popular saying- "play for the song".--Don't hear that too much anymore.......

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                    • #11
                      immature ass am i? god damn you are ****************ing lame.
                      anyway...
                      if he could be so great, then why would he want to be in a band where he can't show his talent (excluding money)?

                      and the saying play for the song, or as i have heard it more often as the kiss theory, "keep it simple stupid" is really some 80s run off crap, only a few people i know really pay keep that in mind. i play for the song and for myself to expand the song by making it busy where it needs to be.
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                      • #12
                        I don't know any household names of drummers that ever "played for the song" all the time. If you want people to notice you (not just drummers), then sometimes you have go over over the top once and a while. Bonham certainly went over the top on occasions, as does neil peart. Look how well known tommy lee is, attitude and flair go a long way. And do i even have to mention Keith Moon..........

                        The point is that sometimes marketing yourself is as important as your talent (if you're looking to make it). I'm not saying it's a replacement for talent, but it can certainly seperate you from the pack if you're looking to make yourself known.

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                        • #13
                          I guess the thing that bugs drummers the most is the fact guys like Phillips are given the title "Best Rock Drummer" because of the BANDS they are in are popular. I think it has always hurt the art of percussion because younger drummers see how easy this is and they settle for being a simple beat player. The true art of drumming gets lost, and these guys are actually cheating themselves out of something by not learning different styles,time signatures, and so on. I wish I would have practiced this sermon about 20 years ago. Maybe I would be talked about on this forum instead of Phillips.

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                          • #14
                            Well, I don't know if the dude from creed
                            is a great drummer or not.

                            What I do know is that he's playing in a
                            band that's on top of the world right now
                            making millions, selling out arenas and
                            banging as many hot girls
                            as he cares to

                            Maybe it's just lottery luck, but the dude
                            was obviously in the right place at the
                            right time when he hooked up w/Creed
                            and I bet anyone in here would love to
                            be in his place, I know I would
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by the other kyle
                              immature ass am i? god damn you are ****************ing lame.
                              anyway...
                              if he could be so great, then why would he want to be in a band where he can't show his talent (excluding money)?




                              Why am I lame? You sure sound pretty damn immature to me. You spout off insults without substance. How intelligent. Might wanna stop diggin' yourself a hole.

                              Maybe he likes the music, that's why he's in the band. Maybe the guys in the band are his best buds. You aren't too bright, are you?
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