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    Well I have finally gone and done it. I still will be playing my Blue Jays in my live performances, but I have gone and purchased a mint condition VDrum module and am building an electronic kit. I was lucky enough to find a TD-12 at an extremely good price point, and am now saving and looking for the other triggering pads and rack. I will never give up my acoustics, but this kit will reside in my training studio and I will use it with my Skype students.



    The last time I did something like this, Simmons was the hot ticket. I mean, how freaking long ago was THAT!!!!!
    The Southpaw is rising again!
    I finally made it into the Flaming Pedals of Doom. That was the longest and toughest audition I ever had to endure!
    Yep...Still the Director of the Geezer Guild for 2013...and counting

    http://carminem7.wix.com/carminestrollo

  • #2
    GASP!!!!



    Nah, that makes sense.
    Music, music, I hear music
    Fitch Drums - The Blog for the Aspiring Non-Professional Drummer

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    • #3
      Carminemw...you will love it. Especially the flexibility of changing kits, patches, and drums on the fly or practice silently. Also, dont forget to invest a good software sampler (Roland is primarily a Synth company, and it reflects it in the VDrum samples as well). I would definitely recommend Superior Drummer 2.0 with NY - Allaire SDX expansion pack.






      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giFEKDweJss








      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roLX4ZW2Ldk







      Good luck.
      http://www.youtube.com/sonnetg

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      • #4
        Camine, I am jealous. After trying out some of the electronics at Columbus Percussion, I have always thought it would be fun to go there. And Yes, I remember when Simmons were in, octagon shapes and all.
        sound clips:

        http://www.youtube.com/rdrummer322

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        • #5
          Hexagons
          For cripe's sake, somebody buy that kid a freaking DICTIONARY already!

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          • #6






            Quote Originally Posted by Carminemw
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            The last time I did something like this, Simmons was the hot ticket. I mean, how freaking long ago was THAT!!!!!




            About 30 years, right?
            "If you can't play the blues...you might as well hang it up." - Dexter Gordon

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            • #7
              Cool Carm....



              Edrums are definitely a great tool and another option to have along with acoustics.



              Watch out though...it can become a deep money pit! lol.



              As Enigmatic mentioned at some point you might want to venture into triggering software to get the most realistic sounds. Of course I will differ as to which software...I'd go with BFD2.



              Regardless though it does require a powerful computer, and there are so many "expansion packs" it makes for very tempting uses of ones money. In terms of home recording..which is what I like to do...I don't think I could ever go back to acoustic drums. It's just not possible to get the variates of sounds all perfectly recorded in pro studios, at the click of a mouse. All played in real time by yourself.



              Frankly when I remember back to trying to record my drums onto my friends tascam 4 track, back in the early 90's, I'm just blown away by where the tech has taken us.



              I mean...when I can basically play John Bonham's and Ringo Starr's very own personal kits IN AIR Studio's in London...lol...it's crazy....



              Enjoy...I'm betting you'll have a lot of fun with the process.

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              • #8
                SC you ain't justa whistlin Dixie about expensive...holy crap stuff is HIGH with a capital HIGH! I don't think I'm gonna be triggering anything just yet. The drums are really for my ears this time...I'm not out to record the next "In the Air Tonight" I just wanna have some fun and get the sounds I'm hearing in my head...like tht elusive ride cymbal I can never seem to find. And the Vexpressions stuff is amazing!
                The Southpaw is rising again!
                I finally made it into the Flaming Pedals of Doom. That was the longest and toughest audition I ever had to endure!
                Yep...Still the Director of the Geezer Guild for 2013...and counting

                http://carminem7.wix.com/carminestrollo

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                • #9
                  yeah it really is. It's funny that even used they seem to hold value fairly well...which is a bit counter intuitive as most "tech" stuff is virtually worthless after it goes out of date.



                  It ain't going to be cheap but I would recommend that you build slowly...get mesh heads and get as big a surface as possible for each drum.





                  For example I have the TD9 model with mesh all around (except on the bass drum). The snare is 10" and the toms are all 8". I would really rather have 10's all around and maybe even one of the 12" snares, but 12's not totally necessary.



                  If I were building like you I would for sure start with the necessary.....Bass Drum, HH trigger, and Snare, and then look for larger pads individually for the toms.

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                  • #10






                    Quote Originally Posted by soundcreation
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                    yeah it really is. It's funny that even used they seem to hold value fairly well...which is a bit counter intuitive as most "tech" stuff is virtually worthless after it goes out of date.



                    It ain't going to be cheap but I would recommend that you build slowly...get mesh heads and get as big a surface as possible for each drum.





                    For example I have the TD9 model with mesh all around (except on the bass drum). The snare is 10" and the toms are all 8". I would really rather have 10's all around and maybe even one of the 12" snares, but 12's not totally necessary.



                    If I were building like you I would for sure start with the necessary.....Bass Drum, HH trigger, and Snare, and then look for larger pads individually for the toms.




                    I am starting to build slowly. But I'm gonna get tom sizes I think that will be similar to what I use...(my aim is bad) An 8, 10, and 12 on the rack and a 12 on the floor. I got a line on a whole group of Hart Dynamics pads that should work. I like a KD9 on the kick. I don't like much bounce and I play on one of those at my store that seems pretty comfortable. The Hart Snare is also pretty big...my only downfall will be the cymbals and hats. I really don't care if they are small...as long as I can get to the bell and bow, I'll be fine... BUT IT DO TAKE CAPITAL FOR SURE! OY!
                    The Southpaw is rising again!
                    I finally made it into the Flaming Pedals of Doom. That was the longest and toughest audition I ever had to endure!
                    Yep...Still the Director of the Geezer Guild for 2013...and counting

                    http://carminem7.wix.com/carminestrollo

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                    • #11
                      I am interested in this as well!! With me is much more about having a "decent" quiet practice kit at home that I can use for a LONG time that sounds real enough and is not a toy but yet something that I can pitch to my wife as a great "one time" expense for Christmas or b-day present. So far Roland seems to be the best with Yamaha not being far behind. Mostly just something where I can practice my heart out and play along with my CDs in my headphones at night. I play with Blaststicks brushes right now on a heavily muffled acoustic set now and still get "You need to turn it down" at times.



                      Local shop has $850 and $1000 Roland kits and the $1000 kit is looking really good!
                      "As in drug rehab? or derhh, I crashes muh motorcycle rehab??" (Cross Eyed Mary) *** One of the founding members of The Geezer Guild***

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                      • #12
                        Stix, I picked up a TD-12 Module for under 500.00 in near new condition from GC used. Even the guys at the store said this module going for that low was quite unusual. Now it's starting to be the adventure of finding just the right pieces at the right cost. If I can get everything I need for around 1000 or 1100, I'll have a bangin kit that I'vw I've always wanted. I've heard the sounds on a 12 and I think I'm gonna be very happy. Now the adventure starts. I will tell you this...doing it this way takes a lot of trust and leg work, but hopefully it will be worth it.



                        OK who lives near Tampa...I possibly need some eyes to check on a KD9!
                        The Southpaw is rising again!
                        I finally made it into the Flaming Pedals of Doom. That was the longest and toughest audition I ever had to endure!
                        Yep...Still the Director of the Geezer Guild for 2013...and counting

                        http://carminem7.wix.com/carminestrollo

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                        • #13
                          I still have a single Simmons pad, the one where you could burn chips to whatever sound you wanted, and change them out, [forget the model #], but I haven't used it in more years than I care to remember.
                          "If you can't SAY something with your instrument, try sellin' cars."-
                          The late, great Tony Williams

                          www.russleonardi.com
                          www.zephyrsound.com
                          — Sonor Designer Maple shell (heavy) 8 pc. for studio
                          — Premier Genista 7 pc. for live gigs
                          — Tama Silverstar "Metro" 4pc. for certain live gigs.
                          — Paiste, Bosphorus and Sabian cymbals, depending on what I'm doin'.
                          — Small collection of assorted snare drums to suit my mood.

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                          • #14






                            Quote Originally Posted by fusionfunk
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                            I still have a single Simmons pad, the one where you could burn chips to whatever sound you wanted, and change them out, [forget the model #], but I haven't used it in more years than I care to remember.




                            Yeah and you locked the eprom in with a lever...and had an eprom burner to record the sounds...omg an SDS1...I had 3 at one time and then bought a kit...

                            http://m.matrixsynth.com/2011/04/sim...sds-eprom.html
                            The Southpaw is rising again!
                            I finally made it into the Flaming Pedals of Doom. That was the longest and toughest audition I ever had to endure!
                            Yep...Still the Director of the Geezer Guild for 2013...and counting

                            http://carminem7.wix.com/carminestrollo

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                            • #15






                              Quote Originally Posted by Carminemw
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                              Yeah and you locked the eprom in with a lever...and had an eprom burner to record the sounds...omg an SDS1...I had 3 at one time and then bought a kit...

                              http://m.matrixsynth.com/2011/04/sim...sds-eprom.html




                              That sounds right Carm.

                              I'll tell you what. I have no need for it. After I move and unpack and find it, if you could use it for your project, I'd be happy to give it to you, free of charge. What are friends for, after all? Just let me know if you want it, and PM me an address to ship it to, and it's yours.
                              "If you can't SAY something with your instrument, try sellin' cars."-
                              The late, great Tony Williams

                              www.russleonardi.com
                              www.zephyrsound.com
                              — Sonor Designer Maple shell (heavy) 8 pc. for studio
                              — Premier Genista 7 pc. for live gigs
                              — Tama Silverstar "Metro" 4pc. for certain live gigs.
                              — Paiste, Bosphorus and Sabian cymbals, depending on what I'm doin'.
                              — Small collection of assorted snare drums to suit my mood.

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