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  • Help out a NON-Drummer by identifying these latin beats

    Hey was hoping some drummers could tell me what these beats to these songs are called. I know they are latin, but Bosa Nova, Bolero, Afro-Cuban???



    Its for a project im doing performing latinjazz and flamenco





    1st:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh1isv5s0uo



    2nd:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PhRg...20539B&index=5



    3rd:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2SJf...20539B&index=9





    Thanks.

  • #2
    elevator flamenco ... not really hearing or feeling any clave that is present in Afro-Cuban (which includes bolero) or bossanova.



    It's hard to pin a name other than "elevator" on that style as it's so smoothed over.
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    • #3
      ottmar liebert is elevator flamenco? Wow

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      • #4
        I don't mean to knock the guitar playing (which is very nice, btw) ... you asked about the rhythms. They are pretty bland/generic compared to the styles you were guessing. If you were to listen to actual bossanova or Afro-Cuban (which is a generalization of many styles of Cuban music), you would hear the difference. As I said, the rhythms have no clave feel, which is essential to the styles you were asking about.



        Obviously a non-guitarist here (but I'll take Maria Rosario Pilar Martinez Molina Baeza any day).



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        • #5
          Agogobill is right about the clave feel or lack of it.
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          • #6
            my guess:



            First one sounds to me like Merengue. Second one is just your typical smooth jazz beat, no particular name as far as I know. Third one sounds more Spanish than Latin even with the percussion, but no clue what it would be called.



            just guessing.


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            • #7
              The first one is a version of the samba. The second one is just a straight- ahead back-beat..not a lot of latin flavor in regards to the drumming. Same thing with the last tune - very fusion-y, less "traditional" so it's hard to pin-point exactely what it is. But I am not an expert on latin music.
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              • #8
                Tend to agree with all the previous. There must be hundreds of specific Lat/Cubo/Afran patterns. To me it's all mix and match like most of the pop music these days.
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