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  • #31
    i'll second the pearl stands. i've been using a couple of stands and a couple of the iso tom mounts and find them all to be more than par.
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    • #32






      Quote Originally Posted by agogobill
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      Pearl is the best out there.



      Just ask this guy if you don't believe me:



      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlvm0hOt-m8










      I think Pearl makes a great shell... strong, good sound, solid build and hardware. The Masters MCX is a very similar shell to my MLX or Sessions shells. The toms are huge-sounding and the bass drums are particularly awesome for a typical rock sound.



      The tom mounts are a love 'em/leave 'em type thing for looks. But with optimounts and t-2000 tom arms, you should be able to get them wherever you'd like.



      I haven't had problems with their hardware like BD describes. In fact, I sold Carm some 15-20 year-old boom stands that were still rock solid. I would avoid the 900 series due to the plastic bushings and sleeves where the pipes insert. I also find the Pearl hardware a bit on the heavy side for gigging.



      If you're looking at Vision Birch, you may want to look at the new Session Studio line which is a mix of birch and kapur shell.
      <div class="signaturecontainer"><i><font color="darkgreen">R.I.P. Marko46 -- You are missed. </font></i><br />
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      • #33






        Quote Originally Posted by agogobill
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        Pearl is the best out there.



        Just ask this guy if you don't believe me:



        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlvm0hOt-m8










        I think Pearl makes a great shell... strong, good sound, solid build and hardware. The Masters MCX is a very similar shell to my MLX or Sessions shells. The toms are huge-sounding and the bass drums are particularly awesome for a typical rock sound.



        The tom mounts are a love 'em/leave 'em type thing for looks. But with optimounts and t-2000 tom arms, you should be able to get them wherever you'd like.



        I haven't had problems with their hardware like BD describes. In fact, I sold Carm some 15-20 year-old boom stands that were still rock solid. I would avoid the 900 series due to the plastic bushings and sleeves where the pipes insert. I also find the Pearl hardware a bit on the heavy side for gigging.



        If you're looking at Vision Birch, you may want to look at the new Session Studio line which is a mix of birch and kapur shell.
        <div class="signaturecontainer"><i><font color="darkgreen">R.I.P. Marko46 -- You are missed. </font></i><br />
        <br />
        <a href="http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=230150" target="_blank"><b><font size="4"><font color="DimGray">My 1988 Pearl MX Monster</font></font></b></a><br />
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        <img src="images/misc/quote_icon.png" alt="Quote" /> Originally Posted by <strong>RumStik</strong>
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        <div class="message">You can't pick someone else's pedal anymore than you can dictate his scrotum wrinkle.</div>

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        • #34






          Quote Originally Posted by mraia3
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          Ok, now put the Pearl Vision Artisan II up against a Yamaha Stage Custom kit. Ima pulling the trigger on one of em, and leaning towards the Yammies.

          Opinions, please.




          I'd definitely go Yamaha! No shortage of love for the SCs on this forum, and rightfully so.
          Music, music, I hear music

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          • #35






            Quote Originally Posted by mraia3
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            Ok, now put the Pearl Vision Artisan II up against a Yamaha Stage Custom kit. Ima pulling the trigger on one of em, and leaning towards the Yammies.

            Opinions, please.




            I'd definitely go Yamaha! No shortage of love for the SCs on this forum, and rightfully so.
            Music, music, I hear music

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            • #36






              Quote Originally Posted by FitchFY
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              I'd definitely go Yamaha! No shortage of love for the SCs on this forum, and rightfully so.




              Thats where Im heading Fitch. I definitely dont want the Pearl Visions.

              The thing is, and this might sound stupid, but Im looking to change up from the Mapex Meridien Maples I have. THey are good drums, but I just never felt comfortable on them. The Pearl stuff is always fun for me, and I love everything Yammie. I guess the thing thats getting me is, are the Yammies a come down from the Mapex that I have already? I dont want to take a step back. I would consider the MCX a step UP, but their $1700 and the Yammies are $650. I dont really relish spending $1700 on a kit, even though its considerd a REALLY GOOD KIT! I know the Yammies arent in that league. For that we would be discussing Oak Customs or PHX or Recordings.

              I think that Im going with the Stage Customs.
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              PERCUSUS! THE GOD OF RHYTHM!<img src="http://img3.harmony-central.com/acapella/ubb/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="thumbs up" class="inlineimg" /></div>

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              • #37






                Quote Originally Posted by FitchFY
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                I'd definitely go Yamaha! No shortage of love for the SCs on this forum, and rightfully so.




                Thats where Im heading Fitch. I definitely dont want the Pearl Visions.

                The thing is, and this might sound stupid, but Im looking to change up from the Mapex Meridien Maples I have. THey are good drums, but I just never felt comfortable on them. The Pearl stuff is always fun for me, and I love everything Yammie. I guess the thing thats getting me is, are the Yammies a come down from the Mapex that I have already? I dont want to take a step back. I would consider the MCX a step UP, but their $1700 and the Yammies are $650. I dont really relish spending $1700 on a kit, even though its considerd a REALLY GOOD KIT! I know the Yammies arent in that league. For that we would be discussing Oak Customs or PHX or Recordings.

                I think that Im going with the Stage Customs.
                <div class="signaturecontainer">Wha?<br />
                PERCUSUS! THE GOD OF RHYTHM!<img src="http://img3.harmony-central.com/acapella/ubb/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="thumbs up" class="inlineimg" /></div>

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                • #38






                  Quote Originally Posted by mraia3
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                  .....I dont really relish spending $1700 on a kit, even though its considerd a REALLY GOOD KIT! I know the Yammies arent in that league. For that we would be discussing Oak Customs or PHX or Recordings.

                  I think that Im going with the Stage Customs.




                  IMHO, unless you plan on doing a ton of studio work, the Stage Customs would be just fine. 95% of people would be hard pressed to tell the difference between SC's and Recording Customs in a live band situation. Remember, it's the player, not the instrument that matters most! ....and saving $1000 ain't too shabby, either!


                  Good playing can hide a crappy drumset, but even the best drumset can't hide crappy playing.

                  Have no fear of perfection. You'll never reach it.- Salvador Dali

                  Some of the best players that I know really can't play the drums well, but they play music superlatively well. - Jim Chapin

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                  • #39






                    Quote Originally Posted by mraia3
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                    They are good drums, but I just never felt comfortable on them.




                    What exactly do you mean by this? Is it the sizes you don't like/can't get positioned well? Are you having trouble finding a combination of heads and tuning that isn't working for you?



                    I wouldn't worry too much about a kit being "a step up/down" from what you have now. Once you get to a certain level of workmanship, it's all about what you prefer.
                    <div class="signaturecontainer">&quot;If you can't play the blues...you might as well hang it up.&quot; - Dexter Gordon</div>

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                    • #40






                      Quote Originally Posted by mraia3
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                      They are good drums, but I just never felt comfortable on them.




                      What exactly do you mean by this? Is it the sizes you don't like/can't get positioned well? Are you having trouble finding a combination of heads and tuning that isn't working for you?



                      I wouldn't worry too much about a kit being "a step up/down" from what you have now. Once you get to a certain level of workmanship, it's all about what you prefer.
                      <div class="signaturecontainer">&quot;If you can't play the blues...you might as well hang it up.&quot; - Dexter Gordon</div>

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                      • #41






                        Quote Originally Posted by the DW
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                        IMHO, unless you plan on doing a ton of studio work, the Stage Customs would be just fine. 95% of people would be hard pressed to tell the difference between SC's and Recording Customs in a live band situation. Remember, it's the player, not the instrument that matters most! ....and saving $1000 ain't too shabby, either!




                        Thats what I wanted to hear!
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                        PERCUSUS! THE GOD OF RHYTHM!<img src="http://img3.harmony-central.com/acapella/ubb/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="thumbs up" class="inlineimg" /></div>

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                        • #42






                          Quote Originally Posted by the DW
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                          IMHO, unless you plan on doing a ton of studio work, the Stage Customs would be just fine. 95% of people would be hard pressed to tell the difference between SC's and Recording Customs in a live band situation. Remember, it's the player, not the instrument that matters most! ....and saving $1000 ain't too shabby, either!




                          Thats what I wanted to hear!
                          <div class="signaturecontainer">Wha?<br />
                          PERCUSUS! THE GOD OF RHYTHM!<img src="http://img3.harmony-central.com/acapella/ubb/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="thumbs up" class="inlineimg" /></div>

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                          • #43






                            Quote Originally Posted by danrothmusic
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                            What exactly do you mean by this? Is it the sizes you don't like/can't get positioned well? Are you having trouble finding a combination of heads and tuning that isn't working for you?



                            I wouldn't worry too much about a kit being "a step up/down" from what you have now. Once you get to a certain level of workmanship, it's all about what you prefer.




                            Hard to say...I cant put my finger on it, other than I think I dont like the 8-10-12 toms. I KNOW I dont like that 8...The drums sound great, but I never "feel" great playing it. I think thats it. Any your right about the workmanship being the thing. At that level its all personal taste.
                            <div class="signaturecontainer">Wha?<br />
                            PERCUSUS! THE GOD OF RHYTHM!<img src="http://img3.harmony-central.com/acapella/ubb/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="thumbs up" class="inlineimg" /></div>

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                            • #44






                              Quote Originally Posted by danrothmusic
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                              What exactly do you mean by this? Is it the sizes you don't like/can't get positioned well? Are you having trouble finding a combination of heads and tuning that isn't working for you?



                              I wouldn't worry too much about a kit being "a step up/down" from what you have now. Once you get to a certain level of workmanship, it's all about what you prefer.




                              Hard to say...I cant put my finger on it, other than I think I dont like the 8-10-12 toms. I KNOW I dont like that 8...The drums sound great, but I never "feel" great playing it. I think thats it. Any your right about the workmanship being the thing. At that level its all personal taste.
                              <div class="signaturecontainer">Wha?<br />
                              PERCUSUS! THE GOD OF RHYTHM!<img src="http://img3.harmony-central.com/acapella/ubb/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="thumbs up" class="inlineimg" /></div>

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                              • #45
                                I've had my SCB kit for nearly 2 years and it has held up pretty good.The Yamaha hardware is great and hasn't failed me yet. Another thing about the SCB kits,you can get the add on toms for a decent price. I spent just under $2000 on the shell pack and have a fairly large kit.

                                The only thing I hated about the SCB was the snare.I don't like it,never could find the right head combination or tuning to make it sound good. I have 2 other snares,a Pearl MCX Maple 6.5x14 and a Ludwig Epic 20 ply Birch 7x14 snare. I like the Pearl Snare more but have been using the Epic since I just got it a few weeks ago.
                                <div class="signaturecontainer">9 pc Birch Yamaha Stage Customs Raven Black <br />
                                6.5x14 Pearl Masters Snare <br />
                                7x14 20 ply Ludwig Epic Birch Snare<br />
                                (8&quot; 10&quot; 12&quot; 13&quot; mounted 14&quot; 16&quot; 18&quot; FT 22&quot; BD 14&quot; Snare)<br />
                                Evans Clear Hydraulic Heads on all Toms<br />
                                21&quot; Raw Bell Dry Ride<br />
                                20&quot; HHX Chinese<br />
                                18&quot; AAXplosion Fast Crash X2<br />
                                18&quot; HHX Chinese<br />
                                18&quot; HH Chinese<br />
                                15&quot; AAXplosion Crash<br />
                                16&quot; AAXplosion Fast Crash<br />
                                10&quot; AAX Splash<br />
                                Zildjian 18&quot; A Custom China</div>

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