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  • #61
    Originally posted by lug


    Nope. The pandora only puts out about a volt so while the will drive a power amp, they wont drive it to it's max. I use a cheap Beringher Eurorack $59 mixer in between. I was wondering if the Pod's output was hotter.



    I will find out tommorrow what the output voltage is. I use a Behringer Eurorack $79.00 mixer between my POD and amp! I don't do this to boost the POD signal, though. I use it to combine the two POD outputs and the output from my Demeter pre. Two preamps, 3 outputs, one poweramp!!
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    • #62
      Originally posted by jpo259



      I will find out tommorrow what the output voltage is. I use a Behringer Eurorack $79.00 mixer between my POD and amp! I don't do this to boost the POD signal, though. I use it to combine the two POD outputs and the output from my Demeter pre. Two preamps, 3 outputs, one poweramp!!


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      • #63
        Originally posted by lug


        Guinness voice on........

        Brilliant!

        ....Guinness voice off




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        • #64
          Originally posted by jpo259
          The POD does allow me to get really, REALLY close approximations of just about any tone I hear. Chri Squire? No problem. Deep, fat, round low end? Next!!! Punchy, midrangy, with distortion?? Coming right up!!! ANYTHING I hear I can dial up in the POD.


          PODs can emulate any tone, but I'm a believer that digital effects do not have the dynamic response that an analog pedal can.

          I am curious as to what you are considering the "Ampeg sound" that you don't like. I personally love the SVT's and especially the SVT-2 (i think I prefer my Mesa/boogie), but the other amps are a different story. And I do think power tubes make a difference. I'm not enough of an expert to quantify it though.

          That said, the next great distorto tone is a POD tone.

          By the way folks, please do fill in any knowledge you have on the subject of bass distortion. At some point, I will make a list of different distortion types, and who uses them. I'm hoping especially for some info on Geddy's rig, I don't have much in that department.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by phunkyhick


            PODs can emulate any tone, but I'm a believer that digital effects do not have the dynamic response that an analog pedal can.




            What do think about this??: running a POD into say, an ampeg using just the power amp section, like Ament does????
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            • #66
              Incubus' new bassist. Nice tones on the new record. Often uses a pick with flatwounds.

              Basses:

              -Epi Jack Casady
              -Fender Jazz
              -Lakland Joe Osborn
              -Lakland Bob Glaub

              Amps:

              -Mesa M-Pulse (he's used about all of them on tour, with 4x10 and 1x15 RoadReady cabs)
              -He recorded mostly direct, with a Bass POD to get a little fuzz.
              -He occasionally used an Orange Guitar amp to get serious distortion.

              Effects:

              Big Muff
              Octave?
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              • #67
                Originally posted by jpo259
                What do think about this??: running a POD into say, an ampeg using just the power amp section, like Ament does????


                Ament does use the SVT preamp though, he slaves out the other sections. You could try it.

                I'd really suggest trying an all tube amp, though. I can run direct into my computer and use RubyTube to get distortion, but it's just not the same.

                Jeff moved from a lot of high powered fancy gear, and as his time went on, it got simpler and simpler. Riot Act was mostly just his P-Bass into his SVT and his SWR 6x10.
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                • #68
                  Bootsy is famous for using his space bass and the MuTron.

                  He's also used some serious fuzz, check his solo albums.

                  I'm pretty sure he favors the Big Muff. In the '70's he used Ampeg SVT's for amps and his space bass.

                  The space bass has had many different configurations in the way of pickups.

                  But for Bootsy, dial in a warm tone, hit the MuTron and have the Big Muff ready to solo.
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                  • #69
                    interesting topic.

                    I'm a distortion/overdrive pedal freak (owning a Big Muff, EBS MultiDrive, Fulltone Bassdrive and a RAT) but I find the natural overdrive of my Ampeg SVT-3 Pro the best overdrive sound so far...
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                    • #70
                      I personally enjoy the crushing ditortion on the Pandora. Not even a hint of the orginal signal left.
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                      • #71
                        been hacking away in the garage with my bddi
                        with drive full
                        it brings up the vol and makes the notes a bit more sustained
                        is that overdrive?
                        or is the bddi not capable of the true sound...
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                        • #72
                          I've found myself a nice distorted sound with my Mesa D-180. It's got cascaded inputs so you can get a pretty nice driven sound. I'm currently playing a P-Bass or a Gibson Les Paul Special 5 String (Active) through it. It's quite tough to dial the tone in though, and not footswitchable between the clean sound. so it's all or nothing

                          Anyone know what Robert Sledge of Ben Folds Five used to use? I know he was an ampeg/les paul man but I'm not sure what boxes he used.
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by phunkyhick


                            PODs can emulate any tone, but I'm a believer that digital effects do not have the dynamic response that an analog pedal can.




                            I pit my rig together in anticipation of getting the 'big gig' with this rock opera I'm involved in. Certain realities, as I see them, were factored in. First, stage monitoring-I don't need an amp or cabs. Second-house-a mic'ed cab wouldn't cut it in as well as a clean, clear, strong signal from something like the POD in Vegas, I don't think. As direct as direct can be WITH some kind of tone shaping (POD) seems right to me. (In order to get what I am looking for-wide tone and effects selection in real time)

                            I put the Demeter in my rig (Dem. HBP-1) for a really good, clean tube-preamp bass tone between my fingers and the house. The POD is for all the colour.(Pre's are A/B'd) And I went this way becuase, at many, many large venue shows I have seen in the past two years, even with world-class bass tones like Yes and Rush, Dream Theatre, Journey, the bass was relativley indistinct. NOT album-clear in terms of tone and effects. I'm not saying it was all mud. Far from it. But not nearly as distinct as say, Roundabout off Fragile. It was such a pervasive 'problem' form my standpoint, that it really turned my off of finding that 'perfect' tone. An amp rig and effects work well in small to med. venues. After that, you're at the mercy of the FOH. I'll be playing a gig in a med. venue Friday night. The sound guy dug my sound last week (I was using an SWR SM-400 with an Aggie 212.). Anyway, I told him about the POD/Demeter rig, and he will be running it FOH Friday night. I will be hanging out with him listening (I'll be wireless). I have been waiting for a moment like this to kinda valididate my idea for this rig. And, I'm really looking forward to hearing how the POD comes across through a pretty decent tri-ampd' PA, which this place has. Sound guy sounds like he knows what he's doing, too. Should be fun. I am going to deliberatley choose some very different sounding POD patches in the middle of tunes to see if they come across FOH distinctly. That is what I wish to happen. Oh, and I'll be out front, crowd or not, when we play Yellow Ledbetter!!!
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                            • #74
                              Let's see, Cliff Burton...

                              Early photos of Cliff Burton show him using a Sunn Beta through a mystery 2x15 head.

                              During this time he appeared to still be using an unmodified Rickenbacker 4001 (4003?) in Burgandyglo.

                              Later photos show him with either an Ampeg SVT 1540 cabinet (4x10 + 1x15) or an early Mesa Boogie Road Ready 4x12 and 1x15. I have also seen several pictures of what looks like a Mesa 1x15 in a side fill position.

                              During this period, I believe Burton used a Mesa D-180. The D-180 is visible in some older magazine interviews. A quick search of Google Image Search turned up nothing. I own a D-180, and the sound is pretty consistent with the Anesthesia - Pulling Teeth sound.

                              His bass of choice at the time, a modified Rickenbacker (same Burgendyglo?) with a Gibson EB mudbucker in the neck and a Jazz pickup in the bridge position.

                              Later I believe he went to a black Alembic Spoiler and, after that was stolen, an Aria Pro II.

                              As for effects, I believe the Morley Power Wah Boost is correct, or at least the most common myth. I can't find any photographic evidence of him using a Big Muff.

                              The cascading channels of the D-180 make a pretty mean distortion, as pointed out previously. I could believe either the Mesa and/or the Muff were responsible for Cliff's tone. I have three or four Big Muffs of various vintage and can get that sound from any of them. Again the D-180 helps.

                              I will look around for pics of early Metallica to back my claims. Either that or you can go hit up your hesher uncle (we all have one) and look at his collection of old Circus or Kerrang!

                              Would you believe I am not that big of a Cliff Burton fan? This is more of a demonstration if my misspent youth.

                              Hope this helps.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by i_am_a_slacker
                                Let's see, Cliff Burton...


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