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    I have a questionable Fender foto flame jazz bass that I bought from a guy 8 years ago. I bought it for recording purposes, and never got around to recording so I am looking to sell it. However, the previous owner did some modifications to it. I believe he turned it into a fretless bass and sanded the back of the neck. From what I've been able to find about it online, the MIJ logo and serial number were on the back of the neck just above the body. I can not find a serial number or MIJ logo anywhere on the one I have, so I don't know if it could have been sanded off or if I have a fake. There is a Fender Jaz Bass logo on the headstock and a stamp in the neck pocket that says JB-62DT but nothing else. It came in a Fender hardshell case with EMG pickups and the original pickups. It looks just like this picture I found online: http://www.geocities.com/bassplayers4ever/Models.htmlAnything else I can do to determine if it is a real Fender? Thanks for your help, this is my first post.
    <div class="signaturecontainer"><b>Guitars:</b> Gibson LP Classic, Fender Clapton Strat, Fender 70's RI Strat, G&amp;L Legacy, G&amp;L Commanche, Fender Jaguar HH, Fender Tele, Gibson MM RI, Dearmond S73, Martin J-15, Seagull Folk, PRS SE Custom, Schecter C1 Classic, Washburn HB35, Squier Tele Custom II, Washburn WD20S, Fender FotoFlame Jazz Bass, Epiphone Del Ray<br />
    <b>Amps:</b> Fender Blues Jr. NOS, Fender DRRI, Ampeg J-20, Fender VibroChamp<br />
    <b>Pedals:</b> VS Jeckyll and Hyde, VS H20, Ibanez TS9 w/ Keeley mod, HBE Compressor, OCD</div>

  • #2
    Do you have any pictures of it?

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    • #3
      Here are some pics. I hope this works, I have not done it before.
      <div class="signaturecontainer"><b>Guitars:</b> Gibson LP Classic, Fender Clapton Strat, Fender 70's RI Strat, G&amp;L Legacy, G&amp;L Commanche, Fender Jaguar HH, Fender Tele, Gibson MM RI, Dearmond S73, Martin J-15, Seagull Folk, PRS SE Custom, Schecter C1 Classic, Washburn HB35, Squier Tele Custom II, Washburn WD20S, Fender FotoFlame Jazz Bass, Epiphone Del Ray<br />
      <b>Amps:</b> Fender Blues Jr. NOS, Fender DRRI, Ampeg J-20, Fender VibroChamp<br />
      <b>Pedals:</b> VS Jeckyll and Hyde, VS H20, Ibanez TS9 w/ Keeley mod, HBE Compressor, OCD</div>

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      • #4
        Looks legit to me. Just looks like someone did some upgrading. Stripped poly finish on the back of the neck (some people find these sticky and hard to play), defretted (its common for people to do this, one of the posters here - Renfield, just defretted a Highway 1 Fender Jazz) and EMG's. (better sounding and less noise).

        All in all I'd say you've got a great bass.

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        • #5
          It's legit. you can tell by the hamburglar in the flame on the headstock
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          • #6
            I'm not sure I've ever seen a forged fotoflame...The process would be a pain in the ass to fake, and I can't see it being worth it.

            That said, yeah, it's legit, as Juggs mentioned, that pattern is easy to recognize.
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            • #7
              Thanks for all your input. How much do you guys think I can get for this considering there has been some changes to the neck? Also, can you actually see the Hamburglar in my pictures. I'm looking and not seeing it.
              <div class="signaturecontainer"><b>Guitars:</b> Gibson LP Classic, Fender Clapton Strat, Fender 70's RI Strat, G&amp;L Legacy, G&amp;L Commanche, Fender Jaguar HH, Fender Tele, Gibson MM RI, Dearmond S73, Martin J-15, Seagull Folk, PRS SE Custom, Schecter C1 Classic, Washburn HB35, Squier Tele Custom II, Washburn WD20S, Fender FotoFlame Jazz Bass, Epiphone Del Ray<br />
              <b>Amps:</b> Fender Blues Jr. NOS, Fender DRRI, Ampeg J-20, Fender VibroChamp<br />
              <b>Pedals:</b> VS Jeckyll and Hyde, VS H20, Ibanez TS9 w/ Keeley mod, HBE Compressor, OCD</div>

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              • #8
                Thanks for all your input. How much do you guys think I can get for this considering there has been some changes to the neck? Also, can you actually see the Hamburglar in my pictures. I'm looking and not seeing it.


                yep. it's on the headstock.

                Here's an isolated shot off my old foto-jazz on the back of the neck so you can see what you are looking for:



                Yours is right by the string tree. Facing the other direction.
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                • #9
                  Yours is right by the string tree. Facing the other direction.


                  It's a bit hard to see on yours since part of his "mask" is covered by the 'F' in the logo
                  <div class="signaturecontainer">-King Kashue, Minister of Information for the Kingdom of Suck-<br />
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                  It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag.-Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, Sergeant, USMC</font></div>

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                  • #10
                    I see it now. I read online that they recalled them b/c of a lawsuit with McDonald's. Does this make it more valuable?
                    <div class="signaturecontainer"><b>Guitars:</b> Gibson LP Classic, Fender Clapton Strat, Fender 70's RI Strat, G&amp;L Legacy, G&amp;L Commanche, Fender Jaguar HH, Fender Tele, Gibson MM RI, Dearmond S73, Martin J-15, Seagull Folk, PRS SE Custom, Schecter C1 Classic, Washburn HB35, Squier Tele Custom II, Washburn WD20S, Fender FotoFlame Jazz Bass, Epiphone Del Ray<br />
                    <b>Amps:</b> Fender Blues Jr. NOS, Fender DRRI, Ampeg J-20, Fender VibroChamp<br />
                    <b>Pedals:</b> VS Jeckyll and Hyde, VS H20, Ibanez TS9 w/ Keeley mod, HBE Compressor, OCD</div>

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                    • #11
                      I see it now. I read online that they recalled them b/c of a lawsuit with McDonald's. Does this make it more valuable?


                      They were never sued by McDonald's, that's just internet nonsense.
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                      It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag.-Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, Sergeant, USMC</font></div>

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                      • #12
                        They were never sued by McDonald's, that's just internet nonsense.


                        Yup. Urban legend stuff. I did hear, however, that the guy responsible for the whole thing was fired.

                        Bottom line.........they are a really nice playing and well made japanese Fender.
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                        • #13
                          Shouldn't there be a visable serial number on it somewhere?
                          So, the "burglar" wasn't limited to the back of the neck?

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                          • #14
                            Looks legit to me. Just looks like someone did some upgrading. Stripped poly finish on the back of the neck (some people find these sticky and hard to play), defretted (its common for people to do this, one of the posters here - Renfield, just defretted a Highway 1 Fender Jazz) and EMG's. (better sounding and less noise).

                            All in all I'd say you've got a great bass.




                            I also removed the gloss from the back of the neck for this reason. Though I then went a step further and changed the entire neck profuile and fretboard radius too.

                            I'd never put EMG's in a jazz, well anything for that matter, mine is likely getting Barts soon.

                            Nice looking bass. I had never heard this about the burglar before, interesting facts.

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