Members Poltergeist Posted January 31, 2009 Members Share Posted January 31, 2009 So.... yesterday i was talking to SuperBass about thinking of, next summer, if everything went well money-wise, buying a Bergantino NV610 and a Musicman 5 stringer... ... then he sent me this website with Bergantino stuff, and i found these babies in it: http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Dingwall_Basses.html jesus {censored}ing christ! i almost had a heart attack... 1100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super Bass Posted January 31, 2009 Members Share Posted January 31, 2009 Now, this just proves that Chinese build quality is awful. They couldn't even get the frets on straight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted January 31, 2009 Author Members Share Posted January 31, 2009 Now, this just proves that Chinese build quality is awful. They couldn't even get the frets on straight! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted February 1, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 can anyone give information on Dingwalls in general? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gonzobassman Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 This is the first time I've been exposed to them. Like anything new,I'm not sure about that fret fanning idea. Maybe the kinda thing that looks good on paper,but... At any rate I would want to play one first,and I can tell you from experience that you can't go wrong with a MM 5 string!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 82Daion Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 I've played a couple "real" Dingwalls, and the fanned frets aren't an issue-you adapt to them almost immediately, and they felt completely natural after about 5 minutes. The B-string is fantastic, as would be expected. The build quality, etc. was top-notch. The only problem I had was with double-stops, but some practice would probably negate that issue. I've heard good things about the Combustion basses on TB-you might check there for more information about them, along with information about Dingwalls in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LanEvo Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 I first played a fanned-fret Dingwall in a Montreal music shop somewhere around 1995-96. It feels very natural and you adjust to it after just a few minutes. The low-B and E-string are absolutely killer. But what really stands out is how even the feel is across all strings. It's like the all have the same tension. Very effortless to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members L-1329 Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 This is the first time I've been exposed to them. Like anything new,I'm not sure about that fret fanning idea. Maybe the kinda thing that looks good on paper,but... At any rate I would want to play one first,and I can tell you from experience that you can't go wrong with a MM 5 string!!! Progress is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Funkee1 Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 I hear great things about the fanned fret system, but I do not want. If they made one with regular frets............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super Bass Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 I hear great things about the fanned fret system, but I do not want. If they made one with regular frets............ But then they wouldn't have a unique selling point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LanEvo Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 I hear great things about the fanned fret system, but I do not want.You simply have to try it before you draw any conclusions about it. I thought it would be a nightmare to get my fingers around the board and I figured there was no way in hell it would be worth dealing with fanned frets (not to mention custom strings) just to have a tighter B-string. But once I picked one up, it all made sense. The tone, feel, and build quality are second to none. Honestly, I'm surprised that more builders don't use the Novax system. You wonder why the heck anyone who builds a 5- or especially a 6-string fretted bass would ever build one without fanned frets. Personally, I couldn't see myself owning a 6-string with conventional frets. The only things that keeps me from owning a Dingwall are: (1) I pretty much only play fretless basses; and (2) I pretty much only play 4-strings. Between my '72 Jazz and my '90 Pedulla Buzz, I have all my bases covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted February 1, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 You simply have to try it before you draw any conclusions about it. I thought it would be a nightmare to get my fingers around the board and I figured there was no way in hell it would be worth dealing with fanned frets (not to mention custom strings) just to have a tighter B-string. But once I picked one up, it all made sense. The tone, feel, and build quality are second to none. Honestly, I'm surprised that more builders don't use the Novax system. You wonder why the heck anyone who builds a 5- or especially a 6-string fretted bass would ever build one without fanned frets. Personally, I couldn't see myself owning a 6-string with conventional frets. The only things that keeps me from owning a Dingwall are: (1) I pretty much only play fretless basses; and (2) I pretty much only play 4-strings. Between my '72 Jazz and my '90 Pedulla Buzz, I have all my bases covered. describe the tone to me, will you? i have GAS, but i never played one. i just hear so many amazing things about them and now i see this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 It moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super_Donut_Man Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 I just ruined my pants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LanEvo Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 describe the tone to me, will you?That's pretty tricky to do since they offer such a wide variety of options. You can get neck-thru or bolt-on. You can get them with various body woods. Lots of different options for number of pickups and pickup placement. The one I played was neck-thru, had a pair of Bartolini (IIRC) soap-bars, and was made of exotic woods (I don't remember which ones). I remember there being a VERY strong fundamental and tons of sustain. Like the older neck-thru Modulus Graphite basses used to have. When people talk about "piano-like" tone, this is what they mean. I've heard that newer Dingwalls with bolt-on necks have a more mid-heavy, almost vintage quality to them. People compare the tone to Pedulla Thunderbolt basses (if that means anything to you). Really what stands out to me is the incredible set-up and string-to-string consistency. The lower strings were powerful and rang clear, like a grand piano. The higher strings had a "low-tension" feel. Think of a Jazz Bass strung with DR Fat Beams. Totally effortless playability. Keep in mind that I'm a 6'1" lanky dude with long fingers. The bass was big. I found it felt great. But a smaller guy with smaller hands might not have found it as comfortable as I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted February 1, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 i have huge hands...... B string wise, tension? was it cool? did you get to compare the bolt-on and necktrough? what should be the main differences? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cpt. Spliff Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 The low-B and E-string are absolutely killer. But what really stands out is how even the feel is across all strings. This post is for Poltergeist only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted February 1, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 oops, hadnt read that first post of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 The Dingwalls are great and the fanned frets are easy to adjust to, but if you have tiny hands like I do, it's hard on your pinky.C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super Bass Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 i have huge hands...... They can't be that big! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted February 1, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 They can't be that big! i'm yet to find someone with longer fingers then me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cpt. Spliff Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 The one I played was neck-thru, had a pair of Bartolini (IIRC) soap-bars, and was made of exotic woods. I remember there being a VERY strong fundamental and tons of sustain. I've heard that newer Dingwalls with bolt-on necks have a more mid-heavy, almost vintage quality to them. By now, I suppose you've seen this, as well ? Just rubbing it in, just rubbing it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrJoshua Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 Darn it. Now I want one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted February 2, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 2, 2009 Darn it. Now I want one. i have to wait until next summer to make a decision anyway.... i'll wait until the new Sterling line comes out and then pick one or other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rippin' Robin Posted February 2, 2009 Members Share Posted February 2, 2009 They're strangely compelling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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