Members der oxenrig Posted July 27, 2007 Members Share Posted July 27, 2007 So I spend 20 bucks on straplocks today, only to find, my Rickenbacker doesn't have strap buttons that can be changed with a simple Phillips-head screwdriver! :mad::mad::mad: In fact, I don't know if they can be changed at all. Can they be? Has anybody actually changed the strap buttons for straplocks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members B-Bottom Posted July 27, 2007 Members Share Posted July 27, 2007 mine was already set up for schallers. I figured they were all like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anesthesia Posted July 27, 2007 Members Share Posted July 27, 2007 Most rics I have seen have had schaller buttons as standard, but on a machine screw instead of a wood screw. You should be able to change them if you remove the current pins then fill the hole in with wood putty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members no-logic Posted July 27, 2007 Members Share Posted July 27, 2007 Ox: Grap hold of them with a pliers and unscrew them. They have a stud which is part of the strap button. They are threaded in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted July 27, 2007 CMS Author Share Posted July 27, 2007 So I spend 20 bucks on straplocks today, only to find, my Rickenbacker doesn't have strap buttons that can be changed with a simple Phillips-head screwdriver! :mad: :mad: :mad: In fact, I don't know if they can be changed at all. Can they be? Has anybody actually changed the strap buttons for straplocks? No, they can't. You must use what came with the bass, because they are actually part of the body. Rickenbacker discovered a forest of maple trees with Schaller buttons growing in them....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flemtone Posted July 27, 2007 Members Share Posted July 27, 2007 jeez, I changed mine as soon as I got my 4001. That was in 1975, however. The design might have changed a bit since then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members takeout Posted July 27, 2007 Members Share Posted July 27, 2007 Two options: 1. Dowel the hole, and install what you want. 2. Superglue the faux-Schallers into their holes. Regular wood glue didn't work on mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted July 27, 2007 CMS Author Share Posted July 27, 2007 If the body has threaded inserts, take the old button to a hardware store and match the size and thread pitch to get replacement bolts, and use these with your straplocks. The inserts are a LOT stronger than using a wood screw into the body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted July 27, 2007 Members Share Posted July 27, 2007 What is "Take them back and get schallers" Alex. I'll take Things things that Suck for $800. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members takeout Posted July 27, 2007 Members Share Posted July 27, 2007 If the body has threaded inserts, take the old button to a hardware store and match the size and thread pitch to get replacement bolts, and use these with your straplocks. The inserts are a LOT stronger than using a wood screw into the body.There's the rub - no inserts. Ric is screwing machine screws into wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willsellout Posted July 27, 2007 Members Share Posted July 27, 2007 No, they can't. You must use what came with the bass, because they are actually part of the body. Rickenbacker discovered a forest of maple trees with Schaller buttons growing in them....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mlwarriner Posted July 27, 2007 Members Share Posted July 27, 2007 eventually, i'm going to replace the factory schallers with dunlops, just because i prefer them, and because i've got dunlops on all of my other basses. the plan is to pull out the ric-o-schallers, drill out the bass a little and stick in some threaded inserts to mount the dunlops to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted July 27, 2007 CMS Author Share Posted July 27, 2007 There's the rub - no inserts. Ric is screwing machine screws into wood. Hmm. Mine's not like that...it's a 2000 4003, and it's got Schallers installed with wood screws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted July 27, 2007 CMS Author Share Posted July 27, 2007 eventually, i'm going to replace the factory schallers with dunlops, just because i prefer them, and because i've got dunlops on all of my other basses. the plan is to pull out the ric-o-schallers, drill out the bass a little and stick in some threaded inserts to mount the dunlops to. Be veeeewwyyy cawefuwl.... You need to sand off the finish to the outside diameter of the insert threads, to keep it from chipping off and cracking. Then be sure to use the correct size drill for the insert...too large, and it goes in crooked and cracks the body...too small, and the insert jams, and cracks the body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members takeout Posted July 27, 2007 Members Share Posted July 27, 2007 Hmm. Mine's not like that...it's a 2000 4003, and it's got Schallers installed with wood screws.Mine's an '05. Matt's is roughly the same vintage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted July 27, 2007 CMS Author Share Posted July 27, 2007 Mine's an '05. Matt's is roughly the same vintage. Interesting. Is there any 'stuff' in the hole? (lol) threadlock compound or anything? Maple's a fairly hard wood, but I wouldn't use machine screws in it. I can't imagine they tapped the hole. Oh...coarse or fine thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members takeout Posted July 27, 2007 Members Share Posted July 27, 2007 Interesting. Is there any 'stuff' in the hole? (lol) threadlock compound or anything? Maple's a fairly hard wood, but I wouldn't use machine screws in it. I can't imagine they tapped the hole. Oh...coarse or fine thread?No threadlock that I saw, and a fine thread. Makes no sense to anyone with a modicum of experience working with wood. I assume the Rickenbacker factory has at least a couple of those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted July 27, 2007 CMS Author Share Posted July 27, 2007 No threadlock that I saw, and a fine thread. Makes no sense to anyone with a modicum of experience working with wood. I assume the Rickenbacker factory has at least a couple of those? Well, in the other Ric thread they're accused of being "horribly run". Maybe this is proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thumper Posted July 28, 2007 Members Share Posted July 28, 2007 Use a channel-lock pliers or vise grip. Grip the strap buttons from the side and unscrew them. Get some Elmer's wood glue and some wooden kitchen matches. Fill the strap button screw hole with glue and insert a wooden kitchen match. Cut the match off flush with the bass body and let the glue set overnight. Install the new strap locks. I did this two years ago with my '74 RIc 4001 and it worked out just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ZigmundFloyd Posted July 28, 2007 Members Share Posted July 28, 2007 Greetings everybody, longtime lurker, rarely post unless I have something useful to say....................... No need for any of that. The stock pegs just unscrew and can be replaced with Schaller ready replacements. Order from Mike Parks here: http://www.the-music-connection.com/ricpart.htm $10 each unless you need gold Also worth noting that the stock screws that you take out are the same as the ones that hold the foam mute in on the bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassment zombie Posted July 28, 2007 Members Share Posted July 28, 2007 Greetings everybody, longtime lurker, rarely post unless I have something useful to say....................... No need for any of that. The stock pegs just unscrew and can be replaced with Schaller ready replacements. Order from Mike Parks here: http://www.the-music-connection.com/ricpart.htm $10 each unless you need gold Also worth noting that the stock screws that you take out are the same as the ones that hold the foam mute in on the bridge. Welcome! But why bother with that replacement? The stock Rickenbacker pegs are Schaller-ready. The only reason to do any of that (replacement) is if you insist upon using Dunlops (or another brand)... Am I missing something here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ZigmundFloyd Posted July 28, 2007 Members Share Posted July 28, 2007 But why bother with that replacement? The stock Rickenbacker pegs are Schaller-ready. The only reason to do any of that (replacement) is if you insist upon using Dunlops (or another brand)... Yep, they are stock now, just a guess but prior to about 85 it was just a simple machine screw strap button. Thanks for the welcome:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassment zombie Posted July 28, 2007 Members Share Posted July 28, 2007 Yep, they are stock now, just a guess but prior to about 85 it was just a simple machine screw strap button. Thanks for the welcome:cool: D'oh! Yes, of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted July 28, 2007 Members Share Posted July 28, 2007 Haven't used these but I thought of them when I read this thread: Dunlop 7007SI Ergo Strap Lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Benjamin Posted July 28, 2007 Members Share Posted July 28, 2007 Haven't used these but I thought of them when I read this thread: Dunlop 7007SI Ergo Strap Lock +1. Absolutely no reason to use expensive locks, these work just fine or better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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