Members bdwgml@gMail.com Posted March 15, 2014 Members Share Posted March 15, 2014 I like to cruise the pawn shops once/month and have a look at what's on display. Recently I was told they'd reduce the price on a Warlock bass, when they saw me admiring it. It's got new strings and a new setup. Something that bothers me however is the total lack of support on the B.C. Rich website. I can't even find an owner's manual for the guitar or figure out what model number it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chunky-b Posted March 15, 2014 Members Share Posted March 15, 2014 It's a Warlock. That's the model. What do you need a manual for? No bass I've even bought, owned or played has had a manual. It's worth whatever someone who wants it is willing to pay. Depending on which one it is, they are all over the net for $199 and up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted March 15, 2014 Members Share Posted March 15, 2014 If it is an early made in the USA one it is worth quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted March 15, 2014 Members Share Posted March 15, 2014 . . . What do you need a manual for? No bass I've even bought' date=' owned or played has had a manual. . . .[/quote'] When I bought my first and only bass used a few years ago, I Googled "bass neck relief." That's all I needed. I didn't even bother to try to adjust the pickup height, I just did a basic setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bdwgml@gMail.com Posted March 16, 2014 Author Members Share Posted March 16, 2014 It's a Warlock. That's the model. ----- Depending on which one it is, they are all over the net for $199 and up... So there are different types within the model. The ones I see in the online catalog now only have one set of pickups unless they're soap-bar pups. What do you need a manual for? Well, for starters, to figure out what each of the knobs does. I assume there are two tone knobs and one volume. I also cannot find ANY support on the B.C. Rich site, so a manual would be even more beneficial. If it is an early made in the USA one it is worth quite a bit. That's a another problem, I don't think there's an indication on it where it was made. Maybe I should go back for a second look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ThudMaker Posted March 16, 2014 Moderators Share Posted March 16, 2014 I've always figured out what the knobs are by actually playing the instrument through an amp. I would scrutinize that bass more closely and figure out where it was made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted March 16, 2014 Members Share Posted March 16, 2014 . . . Well' date=' for starters, to figure out what each of the knobs does. I assume there are two tone knobs and one volume. I also cannot find ANY support on the B.C. Rich site, so a manual would be even more beneficial. . . .[/quote'] Your assumption appears to be correct: http://www.activebass.com/r1812--B-C-Rich-Warlock. The bass in question is most often described as a P/J style (although there are a couple of P/P models near the bottom of the page) but it's described as having a single volume, two tones, and a pickup selector. Probably the simplest thing to do is to play the thing and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bdwgml@gMail.com Posted March 16, 2014 Author Members Share Posted March 16, 2014 I would scrutinize that bass more closely and figure out where it was made. Yeah, I read up a little yesterday about the serial numbers & how to tell the origin. Probably the simplest thing to do is to play the thing and see. Yeah, I'm always fearful that those pawn shop basses are gonna sound better than my P-Bass and it will seal the deal. I should check if they're open today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bdwgml@gMail.com Posted February 21, 2015 Author Members Share Posted February 21, 2015 Almost a year later I regret not buying this bass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted February 22, 2015 Members Share Posted February 22, 2015 Sorry to hear it. We all have "ones that got away" (well, there are probably guys out there somewhere who buy whatever strikes their fancy and never let anything get away but I'm not one of them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bdwgml@gMail.com Posted February 22, 2015 Author Members Share Posted February 22, 2015 I bought this one today. It was between this one & another that had double Precision pickups, but it was Active. This one is passive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators isaac42 Posted February 22, 2015 Moderators Share Posted February 22, 2015 Sorry to hear it. We all have "ones that got away" (well' date=' there are probably guys out there somewhere who buy whatever strikes their fancy and never let anything get away but I'm not one of them).[/quote'] It'd be nice to have that kind of money, wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bdwgml@gMail.com Posted February 22, 2015 Author Members Share Posted February 22, 2015 It'd be nice to have that kind of money, wouldn't it? I can afford it, but I am practical & haven't got the room for a whole butt-load of gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators isaac42 Posted February 22, 2015 Moderators Share Posted February 22, 2015 I can afford it, but I am practical & haven't got the room for a whole butt-load of gear. Yeah, I have more gear than I have room for as it is. And a new bass on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted February 22, 2015 Members Share Posted February 22, 2015 Congratulations and Happy New Bass Day. Wicked looking thing, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bdwgml@gMail.com Posted February 22, 2015 Author Members Share Posted February 22, 2015 I like the way my six-string Warlock looks & feels, and the pickups are really hot, so I thought I would give this one a shot.I paid less than half of what they cost new, even after shipping & tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HoobaStunk Posted February 22, 2015 Members Share Posted February 22, 2015 So there are different types within the model. The ones I see in the online catalog now only have one set of pickups unless they're soap-bar pups. BC Rich has had many bass models over the years with dual P-Bass pickups going all the way back into the 1970s. Even though they are normally considered heavy metal / hard rock type basses, I always thought the dual P-Bass models of the Bich, Warlock, and Mockingbird had a great jazz-rock fusion sound. There have been a few bolt-on US models once or twice in the past, however, the one pictured above is most likely an import. The US models usually have a laminated neck-thru neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bdwgml@gMail.com Posted February 22, 2015 Author Members Share Posted February 22, 2015 the one pictured above is most likely an import. The US models usually have a laminated neck-thru neck. Yes, make in Korea. The ones they're selling at Sam Ash new are made in China. The two USA models I found only had single P-bass pickups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted February 23, 2015 Members Share Posted February 23, 2015 They sell for $299 new so spending $200 on a used one is OK so long as its in new shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bdwgml@gMail.com Posted February 23, 2015 Author Members Share Posted February 23, 2015 They sell for $299 new The new ones are made in China with one pickup. The ones I've been looking at are made in Korea with two pickups, and originally sold for $500-$600, depending on the options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bdwgml@gMail.com Posted February 26, 2015 Author Members Share Posted February 26, 2015 Sizing up the 2nd hand Warlock bass that nearly got lost by UPS today, and there is NO neck relief.I loosened the truss rod until the screw is completely loose, no tension. There's still no neck relief. If I put a capo on the first fret & hold down the 24th fret, the string is just laying on the fretboard, no gap at all. I even tried putting a .01" feeler gauge in there, and it wouldn't fit w/ raising the string. I realize putting heavier strings on it might help, but am I fighting an uphill battle with this thing?I thought I should say that I have tuned to E standard every time I made any adjustments before looking at the status of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted February 26, 2015 Members Share Posted February 26, 2015 Is the neck backbowed or just straight? Is it possible the bass spent time with the strings very loose? I'd put heavier strings on it and wait. The relief may come back to something close to "normal." Then again, you may indeed be fighting an uphill battle. Bear in mind that Rickenbacker actually recommends zero relief for their basses so you may be able to live with it if there's not any backbow. Or you may want to simply cut your losses and return it. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bdwgml@gMail.com Posted February 26, 2015 Author Members Share Posted February 26, 2015 I don't think it's bowed, but that is the only way I can force it at this point w/o tuning higher or heavier stringsI'm going to look for some new screws for the pickups tomorrow. One has a stripped head. I had to use pliers to remove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bdwgml@gMail.com Posted February 26, 2015 Author Members Share Posted February 26, 2015 I let the bass sit in the corner under E standard string tension all night & this morning there was a gap between the strings & fretboard.I adjusted the neck relief to .012" & put the truss rod cover back on.I was hoping to get to the hardware store to buy some screws for the pickups today, but it's snowing outside. If they call off my classes later today, I will just save it for tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted February 26, 2015 Members Share Posted February 26, 2015 I let the bass sit in the corner under E standard string tension all night & this morning there was a gap between the strings & fretboard. I adjusted the neck relief to .012" & put the truss rod cover back on. I was hoping to get to the hardware store to buy some screws for the pickups today, but it's snowing outside. If they call off my classes later today, I will just save it for tomorrow. You might not find the right kinds of screws for pickups at a hardware store. If this one uses P bass pickups you probably want these. http://www.allparts.com/GS-0011-003-Black-Bass-Pickup-Screws_p_1738.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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